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Individual 64516's submission

CAN-ASC-2.2 – Emergency Egress (Exit)
Feedback items
Item id
1768525967309_791
Heading id
s11.1.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
I. assisting in assigning a buddy J. ensuring all people who requested a buddy and a back-up buddy have one assigned. S. ensuring that the personal emergency evacuation plans (PEEP) for occupants with a disability are included in the fire safety plan
What should we change it to?
I. Require a searcher to do a sweep of the workplace to identify if a person cannot evacuate. J. See above. S. Such information should not be included in the fire safety plan, which will be handed over to the Fire Department in an emergency situation.
Why should we change it?
I. Such requirement is unrealistic in a hybrid/activity based work environments. J. See above. S. Privacy reasons as well as challenges to manage the number of changes with personal emergency evacuation plans.
Heading text
11.1.1 Information in the fire safety plan
Heading number portion
11.1.1
Submission ID
64516
Submitted by
cpetitfrere@cba.ca
Submitted on
Thu, 01/15/2026 - 20:13
Consent to contact
Yes

Individual 64527's submission

CAN-ASC-2.2 – Emergency Egress (Exit)
Feedback items
Item id
1768572555385_181
Heading id
s6.2
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
see document for all comments
What should we change it to?
see document for all comments
Why should we change it?
see document for all comments
Heading text
6.2 Overview
Heading number portion
6.2
Submission ID
64527
Submitted by
jewelles.smith@elections.ca
Submitted on
Fri, 01/16/2026 - 09:09
Consent to contact
Yes

Individual 64528's submission

CAN-ASC-2.2 – Emergency Egress (Exit)
Feedback items
Item id
1768577834474_676
Heading id
s5
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
Does not clearly distinguish policy goals from the technical purpose of the Standard.
What should we change it to?
I recommend that the committee rewrite this section to clearly distinguish the policy goals from the technical goals of the standard.
Why should we change it?
Standards should focus on the technical goals.
Heading text
6. Introduction
Heading number portion
6.
Item id
1768577963155_507
Heading id
s6.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
The tone and structure established in Clause 6 set expectations that the Standard functions both as an advocacy document and as a technical standard.
What should we change it to?
Change the tone and structure to set expectations that this document is a technical standard.
Why should we change it?
To improve standard quality and ensure it is not treated as an advocacy document.
Heading text
6.1 Background
Heading number portion
6.1
Item id
1768578063481_599
Heading id
s6.2
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
The Introduction reads largely as explanatory and justificatory, rather than establishing a clear framework for enforceable technical requirements.
What should we change it to?
Rewrite the introduction to establish a clear framework for enforceable technical requirements.
Why should we change it?
Standards should establish clear frameworks for enforceable technical requirements in all fields. This is particularly true in heavily enforced areas such as the built environment.
Heading text
6.2 Overview
Heading number portion
6.2
Item id
1768578340809_275
Heading id
s6
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
Throughout the standard, the scope is incompatible with the regulatory framework of the built environment.
What should we change it to?
I recommend changing (removing and/or rewriting) any and all instances that lead to these conflicts. They are scattered throughout the standard.
Why should we change it?
The scope extends beyond the built environment to include procedures, processes, and personal evacuation planning, which are typically addressed through fire codes, occupational health and safety requirements, or organizational policy rather than design standards. • The statement that the Standard’s requirements “reflect best practices that may differ from approaches prescribed in an adopted building code” creates immediate uncertainty regarding regulatory hierarchy and applicability. • The provision stating that, in the event of conflict, “the more stringent provisions shall apply” is problematic, as it presumes legal authority to override adopted building and fire codes. • The scope does not clearly identify the intended users of the Standard (e.g., designers, building owners, employers, facility managers), so who is responsible for compliance with specific requirements? • Clause 7.4 appropriately defines “shall,” “should,” and “may”; however, these distinctions are not applied consistently throughout the Standard. • Mandatory language (“shall”) is frequently used in later clauses to describe actions, behaviours, or decisions that are voluntary, situational, or outside the control of regulation.
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7. Scope
Heading number portion
7.
Item id
1768581264656_446
Heading id
s8
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
• Accessible: The definition provided differs from the broader and more inclusive definition commonly used in other ASC standards. • Area of refuge: The definition limits areas of refuge to locations with direct access to an exit, which may unintentionally exclude accepted configurations such as designated areas near elevators. This narrower definition conflicts with common AHJ interpretations and could restrict design flexibility without a clear technical rationale. • Barrier-free: The definition largely duplicates concepts already captured by commonly accepted definitions of accessible. This overlap is inconsistent with NBC terminology and introduces redundancy that may cause confusion when applying requirements. • Emergency: The definition differs from that used by other ASC standards. • Evacuation: The definition restricts evacuation to movement toward an exit and muster point, whereas other ASC definitions describe evacuation as movement to a safe place. • Exit: The NBC clearly defines an exit as one component of a means of egress. This inconsistency may lead to misinterpretation when applying requirements related to egress design. • Major renovation: The definition is vague and lacks alignment with how alterations and renovations are typically defined and applied by AHJs. The definition creates potential for inconsistent interpretation and application. • Occupant evacuation elevator: The definition does not sufficiently acknowledge that occupant evacuation elevators are regulated through CSA B44 and are not intended for use in all buildings for all persons. Without clear alignment to B44, the definition risks implying broader applicability than is supported by existing elevator safety standards. • Definitions form the foundation for interpretation and enforcement. Where definitions diverge from established codes, AHJ usage, or referenced standards without clear justification, they introduce ambiguity and risk inconsistent application. Greater alignment with NBC terminology, AHJ practice, and referenced standards—particularly CSA B44—would improve clarity, reduce conflict, and strengthen the Standard’s credibility and enforceability.
What should we change it to?
Change definitions to align with NBC and NFC or clarify reason for differences and define how conflicts need to be resolved.
Why should we change it?
• Several definitions diverge from established terminology used in the National Building Code (NBC) and National Fire Code (NFC) without clearly stating whether these differences are intentional or how conflicts are to be resolved. • Definitions duplicate or partially overlap concepts already defined elsewhere (e.g., accessible and barrier-free), creating unnecessary ambiguity.
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9. Definitions and abbreviations
Heading number portion
9.
Item id
1768581435224_304
Heading id
s9
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
Rewrite
What should we change it to?
Address all items described in why should we change it section.
Why should we change it?
Much of Clause 10 is unenforceable because it relies on descriptive narratives of emergency conditions and occupant behaviour rather than establishing clear, design-based requirements that can be objectively applied or verified. The clause introduces concepts such as active emergencies, silent emergencies, shelter-in-place, horizontal evacuation, and advisory communications without defining key terms, identifying responsible authorities, or linking these scenarios to measurable built-environment criteria. Many provisions describe how occupants will or may act during an emergency, which constitutes emergency management guidance rather than enforceable standards language. As a result, it is unclear how compliance with Clause 10 would be demonstrated, inspected, or enforced by authorities having jurisdiction, significantly limiting its suitability for regulatory adoption. • The clause implicitly assigns responsibility for emergency outcomes without clearly identifying the regulated party (designer, owner, employer, or operator). • Not all buildings are required to have a fire safety plan. • Clause 10.1: This should be covered by a definition: Emergency – an incident or set of incidents, natural or human-caused, that requires responsive actions to protect life, property, the environment, and/or critical systems. A note could be used to describe some typical emergencies; however, it could lead to misinterpretation.
Heading text
10. Emergency egress for people with disabilities
Heading number portion
10.
Item id
1768588263159_784
Heading id
s10
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
Clause 11 assumes that a fire safety plan is universally required for all buildings and occupancies, which is not the case under applicable fire codes.
What should we change it to?
Rewrite and remove those sections, or provide clarification.
Why should we change it?
• As written, the clause risks being interpreted as creating new mandatory fire safety plan requirements through this Standard, rather than identifying accessibility-related considerations that may be added where a fire safety plan is already required.
Heading text
11. Practices and procedures
Heading number portion
11.
Item id
1768588326574_876
Heading id
s10
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
Clause 11 assigns responsibilities to various individuals, including building occupants, support persons, emergency wardens, and first responders, using mandatory language. Assigning mandatory duties to individuals who are not parties to the Standard, and who may not be under the control of the building owner or designer, exceeds the reasonable scope of a technical standard.
What should we change it to?
Remove those sections
Why should we change it?
Assigning mandatory duties to individuals who are not parties to the Standard, and who may not be under the control of the building owner or designer, exceeds the reasonable scope of a technical standard.
Heading text
11. Practices and procedures
Heading number portion
11.
Item id
1768588426982_601
Heading id
s10
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
Clause 11 blends fire code compliance, organizational policy, and emergency response practices into a single set of mandatory requirements without clearly establishing jurisdiction, authority, or enforceability.
What should we change it to?
Clearly establish jurisdiction, authority, and enforceability making sure it does not conflict with other regs.
Why should we change it?
This needs to be done to ensure applicability and usability of the standard.
Heading text
11. Practices and procedures
Heading number portion
11.
Item id
1768588512070_187
Heading id
s11.3
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
Clause 11.3 imposes administrative, behavioural, and privacy-related obligations that cannot be reliably implemented, audited, or enforced through a technical accessibility standard.
What should we change it to?
Remove the sections and remove requirements outside the scope of a technical accessibility standard.
Why should we change it?
While the intent to improve emergency outcomes is understood, PEEPs are more appropriately addressed through occupational health and safety programs, emergency management policies, or guidance documents rather than as mandatory requirements in this Standard.
Heading text
11.3 Personal Emergency Evacuation Plan (PEEP)
Heading number portion
11.3
Item id
1768588569093_925
Heading id
s11.3
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
The clause assumes the existence of organizational structures (e.g., wardens, coordinators) that may not exist in many building types or occupancies.
What should we change it to?
Remove this assumption.
Why should we change it?
For applicability and usability of the standard.
Heading text
11.3 Personal Emergency Evacuation Plan (PEEP)
Heading number portion
11.3
Item id
1768588621928_824
Heading id
s11.3
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
Assigning mandatory duties to emergency personnel or first responders, whether explicit or implied, exceeds the authority of a standard and conflicts with how emergency services operate in practice.
What should we change it to?
Remove
Why should we change it?
For applicability and usability of the standard.
Heading text
11.3 Personal Emergency Evacuation Plan (PEEP)
Heading number portion
11.3
Item id
1768588679189_58
Heading id
s11.3
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
Change this section
What should we change it to?
Remove elements outside the scope of this technical standard.
Why should we change it?
Training, drills, and emergency preparedness are typically regulated through occupational health and safety legislation, fire codes, or organizational emergency management programs.
Heading text
11.3 Personal Emergency Evacuation Plan (PEEP)
Heading number portion
11.3
Item id
1768588792222_839
Heading id
s11
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
Change the way this section is written as applicable.
What should we change it to?
I will detail some of the changes on an article by article basis.
Why should we change it?
Clause 12 relies heavily on long, composite statements that combine multiple concepts without discrete numbering, uses qualitative and conditional language without measurable thresholds, and embeds explanatory or procedural narrative within normative text. As a result, it is often unclear which provisions are mandatory, under what conditions they apply, and how compliance is to be assessed. These drafting issues make consistent interpretation difficult and prevent authorities having jurisdiction from applying, enforcing, or defending the requirements in a predictable and transparent manner, significantly limiting the clause’s adoptability. Some examples are given in my comments.
Heading text
12. Built environment
Heading number portion
12.
Item id
1768588833110_43
Heading id
s12.1.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
Rewrite
What should we change it to?
Clearer language
Why should we change it?
Clause 12.1.1 contains vague language for “other considerations” that is confusing and could lead to misinterpretation.
Heading text
12.1.1 Application
Heading number portion
12.1.1
Item id
1768588886205_934
Heading id
s12.1.5
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
Rewrite
What should we change it to?
Rewrite
Why should we change it?
Clause 12.1.5 suggests that the interior of a area of refuge be connected to backup power and be free from protrusions. This is vague. How much emergency power? What services need to be connected and for how long should the power last? 30 mins, 2 h? Exit stairs contain protrusions for standpipes, handrails, and even a door handle could be considered a protrusion that would not be permitted under this clause.
Heading text
12.1.5 Interior of areas of refuge
Heading number portion
12.1.5
Item id
1768588933557_349
Heading id
s12.1.6
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
Reword
What should we change it to?
Reword
Why should we change it?
Clause 12.1.6 is confusing. Is this applicable to an elevator lobby refuge? Almost all areas of refuge in an exit stair would face a stair, and depending on which way a person faces, it could be interpreted that they are behind or in front of another person. This makes it hard to regulate and subject to a high degree of interpretation. Further, many buildings don’t require exit stair ventilation and many buildings don’t require a generator. This clause would restrict the use of battery back up and require a fuel -fired generator.
Heading text
12.1.6 Clear waiting space
Heading number portion
12.1.6
Item id
1768589001781_485
Heading id
s12.1.7
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
Confusing requiremenets
What should we change it to?
Confusing requirements
Why should we change it?
Clause 12.1.7: What if there is no security or call centre associated with a building? Does this require security 24 hrs or a staffed call centre? What is an emergency response system? How long does the backup power need to last?
Heading text
12.1.7 Areas of refuge communication
Heading number portion
12.1.7
Item id
1768589095741_71
Heading id
s12.2
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
Rewrite
What should we change it to?
Rewrite
Why should we change it?
Clause has two a) clauses and sentences that should be clauses. Some doors to exit stairs are not permitted to have vision panels due to temperature rise limits and glazing limits in the NBC for fire separations. Where this is not an issue, what is the minimum size of a vision panel? This clause could be interpreted that a entrance or exit door can never be locked. All buildings require the ability to lock doors. This type of ambiguity can lead to misinterpretation and confusion.
Heading text
12.2 Exit doors
Heading number portion
12.2
Item id
1768589135341_456
Heading id
s12.2.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
Confusing reword
What should we change it to?
Confusing reword
Why should we change it?
Clause 12.2.1 this is confusing. If there is no power, how can it be released? What triggers the release? How long does the emergency power need to last?
Heading text
12.2.1 Power door operators on horizontal exit doors
Heading number portion
12.2.1
Item id
1768589172397_896
Heading id
s12.3.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
Rewrite
What should we change it to?
Rewrite
Why should we change it?
Clause 12.3.1 there are repeated clause items within the clause. The way this is written, it could be interpreted that escalators, stair lifts and moving walks are never permitted in buildings. Does clause d) mean that carpet is required? Or that overly patterned ceramic tile is permitted? Why is are clauses written “in addition”? Should it not be shall, may, or should?
Heading text
12.3.1 Interior egress path of travel
Heading number portion
12.3.1
Item id
1768589231765_510
Heading id
s12.3.2
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
Fix and clarify, or remove
What should we change it to?
Fix and clarify, or remove
Why should we change it?
Clause 12.3.2 is confusing: ..shall be a maximum distance between 45 - 60 m to travel. Is that the whole travel distance. If it is a maximum, could someone not interpret this to be 45 m maximum? This type of language very difficult to regulate. It is not clear if the exterior egress path from the exterior exit door to the muster point, to the public way is between 45 and 60m, or if the max from the door to the muster point is 45 – 60 m, and the distance from the muster point to the public way is 45 – 60 m. This could be very challenging on a large lot where the public way is very far away from the building.
Heading text
12.3.2 Exterior egress path of travel
Heading number portion
12.3.2
Item id
1768589263586_796
Heading id
s12.4
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
Rewrite and reformat
What should we change it to?
Rewrite and reformat
Why should we change it?
Clause 12.4 is not written in clause and item format.
Heading text
12.4 Muster points
Heading number portion
12.4
Item id
1768589314045_876
Heading id
s12.5
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
Fix
What should we change it to?
Fix
Why should we change it?
Clause 12.5 is really confusing. All the listed standards have different requirements for stairs. Does the designer or AHJ need to consult all provincial codes and standards? The note is written with a shall statement.
Heading text
12.5 Stairs
Heading number portion
12.5
Item id
1768589360647_804
Heading id
s12.5.2
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
Needs fixing
What should we change it to?
Needs fixing
Why should we change it?
Clause 12.5.2 does not describe where the measurement is taken from. Is it tangent to the stair edge? From the point where the rise meets the run? 2400 mm seems high, and 3700 for landings would not allow for the installation of standpipes, not to mention that most buildings would not have that much floor to floor height to accommodate this.
Heading text
12.5.2 Interior stairs
Heading number portion
12.5.2
Item id
1768589440149_799
Heading id
s12
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
The requirements/responsibilities for parties outside the scope of this standard.
What should we change it to?
Remove
Why should we change it?
Much of Clause 13 establishes requirements that are procedural, administrative, and behavioural in nature rather than technical. Clause 13 assigns mandatory obligations to parties who are not regulated by, or accountable under, this Standard (such as building managers).
Heading text
13. Emergency communication
Heading number portion
13.
Item id
1768589481453_90
Heading id
s13.1.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
13.1.1 and 13.1.2
What should we change it to?
False and confusing
Why should we change it?
Clause 13.1.1 and 13.1.2 it is not clear why this is in the standard. It suggests that technical requirements for fire alarms are located in the NFC. This is false and confusing. The descriptions are over simplifications of fire alarms and could lead to misinterpretation. Not all fire alarms are connected to fire alarm receiving centres.
Heading text
13.1.1 Single-stage system
Heading number portion
13.1.1
Item id
1768589511597_758
Heading id
s13.1.2
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
13.1.1 and 13.1.2
What should we change it to?
False and confusing
Why should we change it?
Clause 13.1.1 and 13.1.2 it is not clear why this is in the standard. It suggests that technical requirements for fire alarms are located in the NFC. This is false and confusing. The descriptions are over simplifications of fire alarms and could lead to misinterpretation. Not all fire alarms are connected to fire alarm receiving centres.
Heading text
13.1.2 Two-stage system
Heading number portion
13.1.2
Item id
1768589563757_130
Heading id
heading-90
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
The requirement for building managers
What should we change it to?
Remove
Why should we change it?
Clause 13.1.4.1 puts responsibility on building managers. This is vague and implies that building managers are present in all buildings. The clause items repeated (two a) and b) clauses).
Heading text
13.1.4.1 Emergency communication formats
Heading number portion
13.1.4.1
Item id
1768589630958_948
Heading id
s13.2.2
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
This clause
What should we change it to?
Remove or specify what these visible devices should be connected to or what sets them off.
Why should we change it?
Clause 13.2.2 does not specify what these visible devices should be connected to or what sets them off.
Heading text
13.2.2 Visible device location
Heading number portion
13.2.2
Item id
1768589662581_515
Heading id
s13.2.3
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
Remove this clause
What should we change it to?
Remove this clause
Why should we change it?
13.2.3 is a statement about smartphones and it is unclear why it is included here.
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13.2.3 Smart phones
Heading number portion
13.2.3
Item id
1768589708437_319
Heading id
s13
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
Clause 14
What should we change it to?
Remove or rewrite
Why should we change it?
Clause 14 is difficult to adopt because it prescribes emergency power and lighting requirements without regard to established code triggers, system hierarchy, or performance criteria. The clause implicitly assumes the provision of a backup generator, despite the fact that not all buildings are required to have generators and that emergency lighting is commonly and acceptably supported by battery systems under applicable building and fire codes. No duration for emergency power is specified, leaving it unclear whether compliance is intended to be 5 minutes, 10 minutes, 30 minutes, or several hours, and making objective enforcement impossible. The inclusion of ventilation requirements within an emergency lighting clause further blurs scope and intent. As drafted, the clause risks imposing overly restrictive and potentially unjustified infrastructure requirements that cannot be applied or enforced consistently by authorities having jurisdiction, undermining its practicality and adoptability.
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14. Illumination and emergency power
Heading number portion
14.
Submission ID
64528
Submitted by
elieboutros@gmail.com
Submitted on
Fri, 01/16/2026 - 13:57
Consent to contact
Yes

Individual 64532's submission

CAN-ASC-2.2 – Emergency Egress (Exit)
Feedback items
Item id
1768591689103_585
Heading id
heading-39
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Since some wardens are responsible for a designated floor and not an entire building, paragraph d) should refer to “in their building or on their designated floor …”.
What should we change it to?
d) should refer to “in their building or on their designated floor …”.
Why should we change it?
Since some wardens are responsible for a designated floor and not an entire building.
Heading text
11.2.1.1 The role of the emergency wardens
Heading number portion
11.2.1.1
Item id
1768591749419_422
Heading id
heading-39
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Operationalizing the parts of paragraph e) that refer to sign language interpreters and translators would essentially require organizations to have these capabilities on-site or standby. This could impose a significant financial burden on small organizations. Could these requirements instead be tied to the requirements of PEEPs that are in place for occupants of or visitors to the warden’s building or designated floors?
What should we change it to?
Could these requirements instead be tied to the requirements of PEEPs that are in place for occupants of or visitors to the warden’s building or designated floors?
Why should we change it?
This could impose a significant financial burden on small organizations.
Heading text
11.2.1.1 The role of the emergency wardens
Heading number portion
11.2.1.1
Item id
1768591817716_579
Heading id
s11.4.3
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Is this intended to refer to “every person with responsibilities in the emergency evacuation or drill” such as wardens, buddies and those with PEEPs? If not, organizations can’t force all building occupants to participate in a post-emergency or post-drill discussion. Should this instead refer to the discussion being “open for participation by every person involved in the emergency or drill”?
What should we change it to?
Should this instead refer to the discussion being “open for participation by every person involved in the emergency or drill”?
Why should we change it?
Organizations can’t force all building occupants to participate in a post-emergency or post-drill discussion.
Heading text
11.4.3 Post-emergency: Evaluation and improvement
Heading number portion
11.4.3
Item id
1768591886945_497
Heading id
heading-61
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Editorial such as spelling, grammar, formatting and accessibility
What should we change?
The number of areas of refuge on each storey shall be provided based on half the number of exits required by the applicable building code serving that storey.
What should we change it to?
A building must include areas of refuge on each storey in a number equal to half the number of exits required by the building code applicable to that storey.
Why should we change it?
This is drafted in a confusing manner.
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12.1.1.1 Number of areas of refuge
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12.1.1.1
Item id
1768591940980_737
Heading id
s12.2
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Referring to section D. This is not provided in the National Building Code of Canada (NBC). Considerations should be made to include the same requirements in NBC as outlined in this draft standard.
What should we change it to?
Considerations should be made to include the same requirements in NBC as outlined in this draft standard.
Why should we change it?
Considerations should be made to include the same requirements in NBC as outlined in this draft standard.
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12.2 Exit doors
Heading number portion
12.2
Item id
1768592090492_426
Heading id
s13.1.2
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Alarm sequences and messaging are not standardized. At the Senate, the first notification is sent only to a certain team, who assesses whether the situation is an emergency. If it is confirmed as an emergency, the second-stage notification is then sent to all employees. Because of this, the wording that refers to a “second notification” advising occupants on how to proceed is misleading and should be revised. In addition, the standard indicates that evacuation alarm signals do not sound and that communication is provided only by voice announcement, which conflicts with references to alarm signals prompting occupant response.
What should we change it to?
re-phrase what two-stage system can mean for different organizations.
Why should we change it?
Because of this, the wording that refers to a “second notification” advising occupants on how to proceed is misleading and should be revised. In addition, the standard indicates that evacuation alarm signals do not sound and that communication is provided only by voice announcement, which conflicts with references to alarm signals prompting occupant response.
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13.1.2 Two-stage system
Heading number portion
13.1.2
Item id
1768592191603_396
Heading id
s13.2.3
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
The standard says alerts must be sent through the National Public Alert System to people’s phones. Our Emergency Notification System is only used inside the Senate and by its partners, not the public. If we are required to use the national system, this could be a problem and would be very hard to put in place. We need to better understand what this requirement means and whether it applies to internal systems like ours. Having two systems could also be an issue for other organizations that use their own security alert systems, since multiple alerts could confuse people during an emergency.
What should we change it to?
Consider organizations that use their own system and that by adding a national one, it could confuse people to have to decide which one to respond to first.
Why should we change it?
If we are required to use the national system, this could be a problem and would be very hard to put in place. We need to better understand what this requirement means and whether it applies to internal systems like ours. Having two systems could also be an issue for other organizations that use their own security alert systems, since multiple alerts could confuse people during an emergency.
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13.2.3 Smart phones
Heading number portion
13.2.3
Item id
1768592279954_195
Heading id
s14
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
In the standard is says that “Elevators are now permitted and available that are specifically designed for independent use by people evacuating a building.” Currently NBC does not address this requirement of independent use of elevators for evacuation purposes. This is suggesting that this standard is going beyond existing Canadian codes. There is no baseline requirement in the NBC to design and install or maintain such elevators. Compliance obligations are unclear without corresponding changes to the NBC and the Canadian Safety Standard for elevators (CSA B44).
What should we change it to?
Need to consider existing Canadian codes. (see below)
Why should we change it?
Currently NBC does not address this requirement of independent use of elevators for evacuation purposes. This is suggesting that this standard is going beyond existing Canadian codes. There is no baseline requirement in the NBC to design and install or maintain such elevators. Compliance obligations are unclear without corresponding changes to the NBC and the Canadian Safety Standard for elevators (CSA B44).
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15. Elevators
Heading number portion
15.
Submission ID
64532
Submitted by
accessible@sen.parl.gc.ca
Submitted on
Fri, 01/16/2026 - 14:38
Consent to contact
Yes

Individual 64535's submission

CAN-ASC-2.2 – Emergency Egress (Exit)
Feedback items
Item id
1768598067164_194
Heading id
s6
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Edits to: Defines appropriate procedures and processes
What should we change it to?
NA
Why should we change it?
It is difficult to imagine how these regulations will apply in practice. It may be helpful to clarify the scope of the “appropriate procedures and processes” to be defined.
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7. Scope
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7.
Item id
1768598166217_198
Heading id
s9
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Edits to: The ability of a person with a disability to safely evacuate a building is dependent upon the appropriate design of the building and the development and implementation of emergency procedures and practices that accommodate all building occupants.
What should we change it to?
NA
Why should we change it?
It seems like the draft regulations are seeking to address the design of the built environment, AND the emergency procedures and practices that accommodate building occupants. In this draft, the built environment provisions tend to invoke universal design, while the emergency procedures and practices do not. Instead, these are highly personalized and seemingly most relevant to a workplace environment. It is difficult to imagine that people with disabilities will fill out a visitor PEEP form and be assigned a “buddy” each time they enter an airport, for example. People without disabilities can assume their safe evacuation without having to brief the wardens of each building they enter. How can principles of universal design ensure that this is possible for people with disabilities as well?
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10. Emergency egress for people with disabilities
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10.
Item id
1768598514198_800
Heading id
heading-30
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Edits to: Emergencies requiring shelter-in-place
What should we change it to?
NA
Why should we change it?
Shelter in place emergencies are raised here, but the regulations seemingly do not relate to shelter in place emergencies. This is one example of why it is important to clarify scope. People with an intellectual disability can be particularly at risk during armed intrusions, for example. Could best practices be included here? Further, would it be within scope to encourage staff to build “go kits” including time sensitive medications, and medical equipment to carry with a person in case of a shelter in place emergency? Some people might also include noise diffusing earplugs, a weighted vest, or other support items.
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10.1.1.3 Emergencies requiring shelter-in-place
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10.1.1.3
Item id
1768598647102_221
Heading id
s10
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Edits to: Practices and procedures: During an emergency that requires occupants to exit the building, the general population will follow the evacuation routes that are clearly naked, or they will exit the building the same way they entered.
What should we change it to?
NA
Why should we change it?
People with disabilities are members of the general population. This should be rephrased.
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11. Practices and procedures
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11.
Item id
1768598718446_77
Heading id
s10
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Edits to: People with disabilities will need to follow their PEEP procedures and have more information about the options to exit quickly and safely.
What should we change it to?
NA
Why should we change it?
Why is this? Please explain the barriers that arise during an emergency. As written, it seems like people can’t exit quickly and safely without personalized procedures and added information due to their disability alone.
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11. Practices and procedures
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11.
Item id
1768598762473_123
Heading id
s11.1.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Edits to: appointing an organizing of designated supervisory staff to carry out emergency safety duties.
What should we change it to?
NA
Why should we change it?
Are "supervisory staff" relevant to all buildings requiring fire safety plans under the draft guidelines?
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11.1.1 Information in the fire safety plan
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11.1.1
Item id
1768598805769_600
Heading id
s11.1.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Edits to: (i) assisting in assigning a buddy and (j) ensuring all people who requested a buddy and a back-up buddy have one assigned.
What should we change it to?
NA
Why should we change it?
The concept of a buddy is problematic as currently invoked. The word "buddy" feels childish. Further, unless all occupants of federally regulated buildings are "assigned a buddy," this likely shouldn't be prescribed for a person with a disability. And are we assuming that the buddy will follow the person around? Bullet (d) “evacuating occupants, including special provisions for people requiring assistance” is likely adequate.
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11.1.1 Information in the fire safety plan
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11.1.1
Item id
1768598885182_25
Heading id
s11.1.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Edits to: a copy of that plan is required to be provided to the arriving emergency services - typically through a fire safety box plan.
What should we change it to?
NA
Why should we change it?
Are we expecting that people will fill out a PEEP in every federally regulated building they enter? And that the plan in the fire safety box will be updated regularly throughout the day as people with disabilities come and go? Is this realistic? Or should this be narrowed?
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11.1.1 Information in the fire safety plan
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11.1.1
Item id
1768598929208_632
Heading id
heading-39
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Edits to: The role of emergency wardens:
What should we change it to?
NA
Why should we change it?
An emergency warden is an occupational health and safety requirement. This relates to scope issues.
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11.2.1.1 The role of the emergency wardens
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11.2.1.1
Item id
1768598960994_802
Heading id
heading-40
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Edits to: The role of first responders:
What should we change it to?
NA
Why should we change it?
Is it possible to reference that first responders should be trained to support people with disabilities (including specifically intellectual disabilities). A PEEP can only go so far in a fast moving emergency.
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11.2.1.2 The role of the first responder(s)
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11.2.1.2
Item id
1768599010996_477
Heading id
heading-41
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Edits to: The role of the person with a disability:
What should we change it to?
NA
Why should we change it?
When are these expectations relevant? Are we raising the bar higher for people with disabilities than we are for others? Again, would an average person know of the location of muster points, egress routes, and areas of refuge in an airport? Rather than putting this on persons with disabilities, could the regulations require standards for the location and signage related to these key spots. Please include reference to supported decision-making / planning.
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11.2.1.3 The role of the person with a disability
Heading number portion
11.2.1.3
Item id
1768599044072_346
Heading id
heading-42
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Edits to: The role of the buddy:
What should we change it to?
NA
Why should we change it?
See above. This section also conflates personal support (which should be directed by the person) with awareness of evacuation procedures. It should be reworked and clarified.
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11.2.1.4 The role of the buddy
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11.2.1.4
Item id
1768599797139_628
Heading id
s11.3.4
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Edits to: (d) the procedures for alerting others of the work location.
What should we change it to?
NA
Why should we change it?
Is this an expectation for all occupants?
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11.3.4 Information to be included in the employee PEEP
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11.3.4
Item id
1768600034552_420
Heading id
s11.3
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Edits to: Personal Emergency Evacuation Plane
What should we change it to?
NA
Why should we change it?
A PEEP is one process for accommodating evacuation procedures. How can universal design improve overall accessibility of emergency egress?
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11.3 Personal Emergency Evacuation Plan (PEEP)
Heading number portion
11.3
Item id
1768600176076_112
Heading id
heading-52
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Edits to: Before an emergency occurs, each person having been identified as needing assistance shall be assigned a buddy and a backup buddy who is willing to assist in an emergency. It is the responsibility of the building manager to ensure that buddies are assigned.
What should we change it to?
NA
Why should we change it?
Needs reframe. A buddy should not be assigned by anyone other than the person with a disability. “Buddy” implies personal support. There is a lot of focus on “buddies” and lifting in these regulations. People can have a vast array of support needs which should be considered. How can a person access support in the moment, if a disability is acquired due to the emergency?
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11.4.1.1 Emergency evacuation drills
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11.4.1.1
Item id
1768600570621_392
Heading id
heading-52
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Edits to: In these cases, the emergency egress procedure should be executed to the greatest degree possible.
What should we change it to?
NA
Why should we change it?
How else can fire drill be made more inclusive? Example of potential accommodations: Could people be given a heads up, offered the opportunity to review procedure in advance, introduced to recordings of alarm sounds on low volume? etc. It would also be nice if the regs mentioned that people can be emotionally harmed if they are left behind, the last one to exit, etc during a drill.
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11.4.1.1 Emergency evacuation drills
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11.4.1.1
Item id
1768600880568_453
Heading id
s16.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Edits to: There are different types of signage that relate to emergency egress for various purposes. And page 77: Emergency egress directional signage shall be:
What should we change it to?
NA
Why should we change it?
Emergency routes should be clearly marked with signage using bright colors and symbols rather than words. Signage should be standardized and in plain language where relevant.
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16.1 Application
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16.1
Item id
1768600938716_598
Heading id
s18.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Edits to: Non verbal
What should we change it to?
People who don't communicate with words.
Why should we change it?
NA
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18.1 People with communication disabilities
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18.1
Item id
1768600994337_673
Heading id
s18.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Edits to: Assistive communication techniques
What should we change it to?
NA
Why should we change it?
The techniques listed support listening. Speaking can also be accommodated.
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18.1 People with communication disabilities
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18.1
Item id
1768601263814_526
Heading id
s18.3
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Edits to: People with cognitive disabilities
What should we change it to?
NA
Why should we change it?
This section is lacking detail. Having a "buddy" is insufficient. Consult with people and families to add detail. Potential examples of supports include: - more frequent practice. - reviewing social stories. - a gradual introduction to drills. - a go bag with support items. - information in easy to understand language and formats. - consistent signage and routes.
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18.3 People with cognitive disabilities
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18.3
Item id
1768601338931_361
Heading id
s18.4
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Edits to: for people who suffer from anxiety or some other mental health issues, their behaviour may become unpredictable.
What should we change it to?
NA
Why should we change it?
Is it necessary to remark on a person’s “unpredictable behaviour” in this context?
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18.4 People with mental health issues
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18.4
Item id
1768601378264_543
Heading id
s18.7
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Edits to: it is important to consider that the person with the disability may have a variety of issues.
What should we change it to?
NA
Why should we change it?
Stigmatizing, needs to be reworded.
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18.7 People with multiple disabilities
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18.7
Item id
1768601533172_988
Heading id
s16.5
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Edits to: Other signage
What should we change it to?
NA
Why should we change it?
Signs should warn of any inaccessible pathways and how evacuation is addressed (e.g., narrow corridors, steps, heavy doors)
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16.5 Other signage
Heading number portion
16.5
Submission ID
64535
Submitted by
tlevandier@inclusioncanada.ca
Submitted on
Fri, 01/16/2026 - 17:18
Consent to contact
Yes

Individual 64548's submission

CAN-ASC-2.2 – Emergency Egress (Exit)
Feedback items
Item id
1768701232763_898
Heading id
s18.5
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
The statement addressing people with environmental sensitivities in the emergency egress section.
What should we change it to?
People with environmental sensitivities may experience severe health impacts during emergencies; emergency egress routes and procedures shall be designed and managed to minimize exposure to smoke, off-gassing, and odours and shall not rely solely on individual self-evacuation.
Why should we change it?
To ensure the standard assigns clear design and management requirements and does not rely solely on individual self-evacuation, which may not be feasible or safe during emergencies for people with environmental sensitivities.
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18.5 People with environmental sensitivities
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18.5
Item id
1768702431352_493
Heading id
s18.7
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Technical such as dimensions or application of the standard
What should we change?
The treatment/addition of air quality within emergency egress requirements.
What should we change it to?
The emergency egress provisions should be revised to clarify that air quality is a critical factor in emergency egress for people with multiple, interacting disabilities, including environmental sensitivities and disabilities that affect breathing, and to reflect this in the design and management of egress routes and procedures.
Why should we change it?
The emergency egress provisions related to how air quality is addressed for people with multiple, interacting disabilities, including environmental sensitivities and disabilities that affect breathing.
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18.7 People with multiple disabilities
Heading number portion
18.7
Submission ID
64548
Submitted by
office@aseq-ehaq.ca
Submitted on
Sat, 01/17/2026 - 21:15
Consent to contact
Yes

Individual 64579's submission

CAN-ASC-2.2 – Emergency Egress (Exit)
Feedback items
Item id
1769006717305_99
Heading id
heading-90
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Editorial such as spelling, grammar, formatting and accessibility
What should we change?
TEST
What should we change it to?
TEST
Why should we change it?
TEST
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13.1.4.1 Emergency communication formats
Heading number portion
13.1.4.1
Submission ID
64579
Submitted by
VWilliams
Submitted on
Wed, 01/21/2026 - 09:46
Consent to contact
No

Individual 64580's submission

Feedback items
Item id
Test
Heading id
Test
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Test
What should we change it to?
Test
Why should we change it?
Test
Heading text
Test
Heading number portion
Test
Submission ID
64580
Submitted by
VWilliams
Submitted on
Wed, 01/21/2026 - 11:31
Consent to contact
No

Individual 64585's submission

CAN-ASC-2.2 – Emergency Egress (Exit)
Feedback items
Item id
1769024844989_514
Heading id
s6.2
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
As people with disabilities are increasingly demanding a say in their self-determination, they are no longer willing to wait for assistance, while others are evacuating a building. They wish to be provided with the same level of safety.
What should we change it to?
As people with disabilities are entitled to the same rights as people without those disabilities, they should not have to wait for assistance, while others are evacuating a building. They are entitled to the same level of safety as people without disabilities.
Why should we change it?
By itself, a demand or request without entitlement isn’t enough to set these standards. Recognizing entitlement is a straightforward and clear reason for them.
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6.2 Overview
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6.2
Item id
1769025154058_839
Heading id
s7.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
The requirements of this Standard shall apply to all of the following:Split up letter B into individual sections for clarity. a. b. the design, construction and occupancy of all new buildings; the alteration, major renovation (as defined by the NBC), reconstruction, relocation and occupancy of all existing buildings, including leased facilities; c. both site-built and factory-constructed buildings; and d. buildings with single stairwells.
What should we change it to?
Add the words, or rented, after the word, leased. a. b. the design, construction and occupancy of all new buildings; C. the alteration, major renovation (as defined by the NBC), . reconstruction, D. relocation and F. occupancy of all existing buildings, including leased and rented facilities; G. both site-built and factory-constructed buildings; and H. buildings with single stairwells.
Why should we change it?
It is possible for a building to be rented, and so this option must be part of this standard. The possibilities of reconstruction, relocation, and occupancy should not be merged into a single clause, as they are distinctly different.
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7.1 Inclusions
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7.1
Item id
1769025250809_506
Heading id
s7.3
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
The design requirements of this Standard apply to the design of new construction and major renovations, as defined by the NBC, for the federally regulated sector. This includes all major occupancy types, including multi-unit residential buildings and leased facilities. This edition of the standard does not address individual dwelling units.
What should we change it to?
Merge this clause with 7.1, or at least make them say the very same thing.
Why should we change it?
This would make the standard more focused, and consistent.
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7.3 Applications
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7.3
Item id
1769025407640_24
Heading id
s7.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Add a section, 7.1.1. In section 10, there is a long list of possible emergencies. In the same way, we suggest that there should be a list of possible buildings, to ensure conformance with the standard.
What should we change it to?
Add this section :7.1.1 other inclusions This scope includes but are not limited too. Shopping centers Multi use buildings which have retail at the ground level, parking at levels 2, 3 or four, businesses at levels, 5, 6 and seven, and residential units above, or any combination. Sports stadiums Schools Parking garages Transit terminal, such as airports Hospitals and medical centers Venues for large gatherings, such as concert halls Structures that are close to flammable materials, such as a forest, or fuel storage. Factories Warehouses
Why should we change it?
Each of these building types, and there are probably others, require special attention to exit and egress methods for persons with disabilities in the case of an emergency.
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7.1 Inclusions
Heading number portion
7.1
Item id
1769025600930_912
Heading id
s9.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Accessible egress path of travel — The accessible route that is used as the egress route from anywhere in the building to the accessible muster Terminology point. Accessible path of travel — The accessible route within the interior or exterior environment that is without barriers — Designated area within a building which has
What should we change it to?
Merge these two definitions, or create a note explaining the differences. Also 1. in the first definition, the word, terminology, does not seem to be correct. 2. The definition calls up the muster point. This should be expanded to, refuge, shelter, and waiting.
Why should we change it?
It is not clear what the difference is between these two terms
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9.1 Definitions
Heading number portion
9.1
Item id
1769025683138_234
Heading id
s9.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Add a definition for Individual dwelling units
What should we change it to?
Individual dwelling units are structures, such as a cottage, bungalow, semi detached, or town houses, residential only, each housing several people If the structure is a cottage, although it might be two or three stories, as long as it has related persons in it, this standard does not apply to it. If the structure is used largely as rental units for unrelated persons, such as a boarding house, or dormitory, then they are covered by this standard. If the structure is multistory, such as a duplex, triplex, or quadruplex, then it is covered by this standard as it is multi story. If a cottage or bungalow has been converted to a non-residential use, then it is covered by this standard.
Why should we change it?
The definition of individual dwelling unit needs clarification.
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9.1 Definitions
Heading number portion
9.1
Item id
1769025732490_167
Heading id
s9.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Add a definition
What should we change it to?
Facility accessibility panel A panel of 3 to 7 persons, selected by the facility, emergency manager in cooperation and coordination with all persons with disabilities in the facility. Each person in this panel shall have a term of one year, and the panel will be re-selected every year by the facility, emergency manager in coordination and cooperation with all persons with disabilities in the facility
Why should we change it?
The mandate of accessibility standards Canada calls for, nothing about us, without us. In order to do this, the emergency management of a facility must have the input of persons with disabilities, and so an appropriate body must be formed and have the appropriate authority.
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9.1 Definitions
Heading number portion
9.1
Item id
1769025810330_64
Heading id
s9.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
The definitions for, accessible, and, barrier free, each list a few specific disabilities. Given that these are listed in more detail in The definition of disability, there should either be a cross reference, or just the use of the word disability, and remove the three or four descriptive words.
What should we change it to?
In the definitions of accessible, and, barrier free, remove the three or four words that describe some disabilities.
Why should we change it?
This will add clarity to the definition, and harmonize the definitions with each other.
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9.1 Definitions
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9.1
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1769025870061_444
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s9.1
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Add a definition
What should we change it to?
What we should change it to. Facility emergency manager This person shall be appointed by the building owner, or should there be shared ownership, such as a condominium or cooperative, by the governing body, such as the board of directors They will have the mandate to plan for, execute, improve, and do continuous improvement on every aspect of emergencies, including PEEP and risk assessment and mitigation. This would include selecting, training, and ensuring availability of buddies and floor wardens.
Why should we change it?
There are several places in this standard, which include the selection of buddies, training, inspections, and ongoing operations, which call upon a property owner or building Manager. There are possibilities that neither of these two positions exist, have the appropriate authority, or training to be involved in such an important manner as the management of emergencies. Wherever the words, building manager or property owner are in this standard, the facilities emergency manager position is to be understood or, for consistency and harmonization, use only the words, emergency facility manager.
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9.1 Definitions
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9.1
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1769025924562_202
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s9.1
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Add a definition
What should we change it to?
The phrase, fire compartment, is used once or twice in this standard, but not defined. I do not have the technical expertise to define it, but either do this, or change it to a more familiar term.
Why should we change it?
This is an important term, and so to be consistent and harmonized, it should be defined or replaced.
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9.1 Definitions
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9.1
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1769026531769_197
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s9
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10. Emergency egress for people with disabilities The National Fire Code (NFC) and the Provincial Fire Codes require that all buildings have a fire safety plan that includes information on emergency egress for all occupants, including people with disabilities. The ability of a person with a disability to safely evacuate a building is dependent upon the appropriate design of the building and the development and implementation of emergency procedures and practices that accommodate all building occupants.
What should we change it to?
Split up this section for clarity. Note. Some section renumbering might be necessary. 10. Emergency egress , training, and inspection 10.1 inspection As the NFC) and the Provincial Fire Codes require that all buildings have a fire safety plan that includes information on emergency and egress for all occupants, including people with disabilities. The ability of a person with a disability to safely evacuate a building is dependent upon the appropriate design of the building and the development and implementation of emergency procedures and practices that accommodate all building occupants. A. the facility, emergency manager, with the facility, accessibility panel, shall ensure that all personal emergency evacuation plans, conform with the NFB and provincial codes B. whenever an inspector from a fire department or other building code inspector does and inspection, they shall ensure that all Communication systems, egress routes, mustard, points, shelters, refuge and other structures that enable a person with a disability to evacuate safely or other items included in this Standard are in place and operate correctly. C. The facility accessibility panel Will participate in all inspections. .. This inspection shall take place no less than every 12 months, and if there are more than 200 occupants, twice per year. D. any part of the inspection that is shown as not in place or not operating correctly, either by the building code inspector, or fire department inspector, or by the facility accessibility panel , shall be treated by the fire department inspector or building code inspector with the same seriousness as a violation of their code , with the same due process. All documentation and due process concerning violations shall be copied to the facility accessibility panel. 10.2 Training A. a training program on the subject of this standard shall be developed by accessibility standards Canada within one year of the final standard being approved. B. The training program shall be mandatory for the facility, accessibility panel, facility, emergency manager, , emergency coordinator, buddies,officials and inspectors to attend this course as part of their orientation and on boarding, and have a refresher whenever a major part of the standard is changed. C. should a particular building have a violation found by the fire department inspector or building "inspector, then a training memorandum will be sent out to all the above concerned, persons with procedures to assure the violation does not occur again.
Why should we change it?
In order for a standard to be effective, it is vital that everyone concerned, knows what that standard is, and so a training program is necessary to ensure an even spread of knowledge. In addition, enforcement of a standard is necessary, otherwise, there are possibilities that it will not be used, and this might lead to tragic consequences.
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10. Emergency egress for people with disabilities
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10.
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1769029239414_842
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s10
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Editorial such as spelling, grammar, formatting and accessibility
What should we change?
I feel this section is too long, and should be split up into sections 12, 13, etc., and the subsequent sections re-numbered What we should change it to. The sections would include.
What should we change it to?
Planning from the fire department Roles and responsibilities Personal emergency evacuation plan Before during and after an emergency And others.
Why should we change it?
These topics are too important to be smershed into one section. In addition, other standards, I have worked on have separate sections for roles and responsibilities, so then this standard would be harmonized with other standards What kind of suggestion are you making? General Section Number
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11. Practices and procedures
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11.
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1769029463870_129
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heading-39
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
The role of the emergency wardens Emergency wardens are individuals who are responsible for the safety of the people in their building or on their designated floors. The emergency wardens shall do the following:
What should we change it to?
Use the role of the facility, emergency manager, instead of floor warden.The role of the emergency wardens Emergency wardens are individuals who are responsible for the safety of the people in their building or on their designated floors.They work under the authority of the facility, emergency manager. In some cases, the facility emergency manager might also be the emergency warden. New text ends here The emergency wardens shall do the following:
Why should we change it?
In order to have consistency across the standard for roles and responsibilities, as well as authority, there must be harmonization between the terms used for the same function, but with different names. The names that are to be harmonized are. Facility emergency manager Building owner Property Manager Emergency warden or floor or fire warden Health and safety officer
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11.2.1.1 The role of the emergency wardens
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11.2.1.1
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1769029589968_169
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heading-41
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
The role of the person with a disability Some information on emergency egress issues that relate to individuals with various disabilities is provided in Annex A (https://accessible.canada.ca/creating-accessibility-standards/can-asc-22-emergency-egress-exit/18-annex-emergency-egress-issues-persons- disabilities). A person with a disability shall: a. develop a PEEP in conjunction with the emergency warden and buddies; b. ensure that emergency wardens and buddies know and understand their personal situation and how to best assist; c. describe their preferences as to lifting or transferring; d. describe any areas of concern such as loud noises, the use of assistive devices, areas of pain, etc.; e. know the location of the accessible egress routes and the areas of refuge; f. know how to use an evacuation device, if applicable; and g. be aware of the location of the muster points.
What should we change it to?
Add the following at the letter H. H. Be available for nomination to the facility, accessibility panel, and if chosen, ensure that all standards are met I. know who are the members of the facility, accessibility panel and facility, emergency manager and report to them any concerns about emergency egress, procedures, or conformity to standards J. As part of on boarding and orientation , with the appointed buddy, ensure you know the paths of egress, refuge, muster, shelter, points, and method of communication, and Test, the method of communication. K. if you are a visitor, ensure the facility emergency manager is aware that you are in the facility, has a copy of your PEEP, and with a buddy, review the appropriate emergency egress procedures
Why should we change it?
The more that a person with a disability can participate and have knowledge of the emergency egress procedures, the more likely it is that they will be able to safely. Exit the facility in the case of an emergency.
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11.2.1.3 The role of the person with a disability
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11.2.1.3
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1769029701838_12
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heading-42
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
The role of the buddy The buddy shall do the following: a. Assist in notifying the person with a disability of an emergency. b. Know how to use an evacuation device, if applicable. c. Participate in the development of the PEEP. d. Be aware of the location of the accessible egress route and area of refuge. e. Know the appropriate way to communicate with and assist the person with a disability and discuss their PEEP. f. Be aware of the locations of the person with a disability that they are going to accompany. g. Be aware of the location of the muster points. h. Participate in fire drills with the person with the disability.
What should we change it to?
Add the following starting with letter I . I. as part of on boarding and orientation, practice the egress roots, muster, shelter, and refuse points, and test the method of communication with the person with a disability. J. If there are any parts of the standard that are not met , communicate immediately with the facility, emergency manager and the facility accessibility panel. K. If you are assigned to a visitor, ensure that you know, the PEEP, and, if applicable, practice the egress method, shelter, muster, and refuse points, and test the method of communication.
Why should we change it?
Practice makes perfect, and the steps necessary for a person with a disability to exit safely are more likely to succeed if a practice session has been done, and remediation for those concerns that are still evident.
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11.2.1.4 The role of the buddy
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11.2.1.4
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1769029826624_825
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s11.4.3
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
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Evaluation and improvement After an emergency situation has taken place, an in-depth review shall be conducted on the effectiveness of the procedures that were developed and implemented. All drills and emergencies shall be documented to facilitate improvement. Potential improvements should be discussed frequently and openly. This discussion shall: a. be completed within 2 weeks of the emergency egress in a written format and an alternative format that is
What should we change it to?
After the words, Potential improvements should be discussed frequently and openly, Add another sentence. 11.4.3 Post-emergency: Evaluation and improvement After an emergency situation has taken place, an in-depth review shall be conducted on the effectiveness of the procedures that were developed and implemented. All drills and emergencies shall be documented to facilitate improvement. Potential improvements should be discussed frequently and openly. If the in-depth review shows areas of concern that are life-threatening, these should be reported to the fire department inspector, or building code inspector, and be treated as serious violations with the due process of the inspection agency. These serious violations shall be reported to the facility, emergency manager and the facility accessibility panel.
Why should we change it?
Any life-threatening concern should be treated with the appropriate seriousness of the situation, and the authorities with the mandate to remedy the situation and enforce any improvements must be part of the process.
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11.4.3 Post-emergency: Evaluation and improvement
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11.4.3
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1769030340629_822
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heading-41
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
11.2.1.3 The role of the person with a disability .
What should we change it to?
Change the title of the section by enlarging it to those who need assistance 11.2.1.3 The role of the person with a disability or who requires assistance that impacts emergency egress.
Why should we change it?
The title of this section should conform with the definition of a person who must complete a PEEP. and highlight that there are other persons than those with disabilities, such as seniors, or persons with children, that might also need assistance.
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11.2.1.3 The role of the person with a disability
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11.2.1.3
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1769030439701_839
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s11.3.2
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
11.3.2 Employee Personal Emergency Evacuation Plans
What should we change it to?
Change the title to include all those who are not visitors 11.3.2 occupant, residence, and full and part time Employee Personal Emergency Evacuation Plans
Why should we change it?
Parts of this draft standard focus on office buildings and office employees, but there are many other kinds of buildings that have other kinds of occupants. In order to be inclusive, there must be a more functional definition so that , all those who are present a major part of time must be part of this section. For information, here is the definition of visitor. occupants of a building who are not present on a regular, known and consistent basis. This could include patrons, employees in a hybrid or co-working workplace who work in an office space on an irregular basis, or employees in activity-based workplaces. This wording of employee should be changed wherever it occurs.
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11.3.2 Employee Personal Emergency Evacuation Plans
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11.3.2
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1769030535061_571
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heading-41
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
11.2.1.3 The role of the person with a disability Some information on emergency egress issues that relate to individuals with various disabilities is provided in Annex A (https://accessible.canada.ca/creating-accessibility-standards/can-asc-22-emergency-egress-exit/18-annex-emergency-egress-issues-persons- disabilities). A person with a disability shall: a. develop a PEEP in conjunction with the emergency warden and buddies; b. ensure that emergency wardens and buddies know and understand their personal situation and how to best assist; c. describe their preferences as to lifting or transferring; d. describe any areas of concern such as loud noises, the use of assistive devices, areas of pain, etc.; e. know the location of the accessible egress routes and the areas of refuge;f. know how to use an evacuation device, if applicable; and g. be aware of the location of the muster points.
What should we change it to?
Add a clause, H, at the end about risk mitigation 11.2.1.3 The role of the person with a disability Some information on emergency egress issues that relate to individuals with various disabilities is provided in Annex A (https://accessible.canada.ca/creating-accessibility-standards/can-asc-22-emergency-egress-exit/18-annex-emergency-egress-issues-persons- disabilities). A person with a disability shall: a. develop a PEEP in conjunction with the emergency warden and buddies; b. ensure that emergency wardens and buddies know and understand their personal situation and how to best assist; c. describe their preferences as to lifting or transferring; d. describe any areas of concern such as loud noises, the use of assistive devices, areas of pain, etc.; e. know the location of the accessible egress routes and the areas of refuge;f. know how to use an evacuation device, if applicable; and g. be aware of the location of the muster points. New text starts here H. Discuss the risk profile of the facility with the facility, emergency manager, which may include age of the building, combustible materials in the building, sprinklers or not, which building codes are older, grandfathered, and not up-to-date, code violations, received from the fire department or other authorities, proximity to other dangers, and anything else the facility manager may be aware of. If appropriate, discuss reducing the risk by changing the location of the work, occupation, or residence , by increasing the proximity to refuge, shelter, waiting, exit doors, elevators, stairs, egress pads, or selecting other facilities.
Why should we change it?
There might be a particular combination of risks in a facility, as well as a combination of difficulties in emergency egress in a particular person, that would point to other kinds of risk, mitigation than buddies or evacuation plans. one way to do this is to change the location of the person with a disability physical location to one more favorable to egress during an emergency situation.
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11.2.1.3 The role of the person with a disability
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11.2.1.3
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1769030692215_818
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s12.1.1
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Buildings shall be provided with areas of refuge on levels above and below the level served by an immediate accessible exit and egress path of travel leading directly outside
What should we change it to?
Add a sentence describing what happens if it is a one story building, such as a factory, warehouse, or logistics hub. Also, expand refuge area, too, muster , shelter, or waiting areas. 12.1.1 Application Buildings shall be provided with areas of refuge, muster, shelter, and waiting areas on levels above and below the level served by an immediate accessible exit and egress path of travel leading directly outside. In the case of one story buildings, the areas of refuge, muster, shelter, and waiting shall be located in such a way that they are safe from the situation of the emergency, and close to the path of egress.
Why should we change it?
In general, this standard is written from the perspective of multi story, office buildings, however, there a many kinds of buildings, including residences, one story, industrial buildings, such as factories, warehouses, and logistic hubs. The standard must have the appropriate language to accommodate these situations.
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12.1.1 Application
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12.1.1
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1769030780470_230
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heading-61
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
The number of areas of refuge on each storey shall be provided based on half the number of exits required by the applicable building code serving that storey. Note: Decimal numbers should be rounded up to the nearest whole number. Other considerations: a. the building use; and b. the anticipated number of visitors.
What should we change it to?
Add conditions at the end, indicating that the number of persons occupying or employed in the building shall be part of the consideration of number of refuge areas. 12.1.1.1 Number of areas of refuge The number of areas of refuge on each storey shall be provided based on half the number of exits required by the applicable building code serving that storey. Note: Decimal numbers should be rounded up to the nearest whole number. Other considerations: a. the building use; and b. the anticipated number of visitors. New text starts here C. Number of persons occupying or employed in the facility D. the proportion of staff available to eat in evacuation, such as buddies, compared to the number of persons employed in or occupying the building.
Why should we change it?
. One would imagine that the building code would include clauses about a, and B, at the end of this clause, and perhaps also the addition we are making, about number of occupants and amount of assistance available. However, given that conditions, a, and B, were included, this would indicate that these conditions are not in the building code, and so we feel that other conditions must be added. Condition D is very important in the case of shopping centers, sports stadiums, factories with a high density of employees, condominiums, where the number of staff or buddies are low compared to the actual number of people in the facility. In these cases, Moore, areas of refuge must be available to make up for the small amount of assistance available. Note. The same analysis should be applied to muster, shelter, waiting, or any other areas where persons might congregate in the event of an emergency.
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12.1.1.1 Number of areas of refuge
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12.1.1.1
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1769030908022_650
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s12.1.2
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Note: An example of a fire compartment in this Clause includes an elevator lobby.
What should we change it to?
Add specifications after the words,includes an elevator lobby Note: An example of a fire compartment in this Clause includes an elevator lobby, New text starts here only if the elevator lobby is protected from the emergency situation, such as fire, and compliant with clause 12.1.3 It will be marked in the same way as refuge area in a prominent way.
Why should we change it?
A description of an elevator lobby, as a place of refuge is too vague, and may result in persons with disabilities gathering in front of an elevator door, but not be protected from the emergency situation. Clarification must be given to this note so that if this particular space is a place of refuge, then it must comply with the standards for this type of space. Note. The words, fire compartment, are used in this note, and have not been previously used or defined.
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12.1.2 Location of the areas of refuge
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12.1.2
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1769031001934_624
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s12.1.3
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
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12.1.3 General Areas of refuge shall be: a. located on an accessible route; b. smoke-protected; c. illuminated at a minimum of 200 lux; and d. provided with an evacuation device nearby.
What should we change it to?
Add other conditions to make it more survivable as a place of refuge starting with letter E. 12.1.3 General Areas of refuge shall be: a. located on an accessible route; b. smoke-protected; c. illuminated at a minimum of 200 lux; and d. provided with an evacuation device nearby New text starts here E. Full range of communication systems backed up by fire resistant and emergency power f. have separate emergency lighting and ventilation systems supported by a backup generator.
Why should we change it?
A place of refuge is a place where one could survive a situation. Emergency for enough time until assistance is available to leave the building. This could easily be 10, 15, or 20 minutes, and so there must be enough protection, plus reliable communications, to enable survival.
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12.1.3 General
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12.1.3
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1769031080232_908
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s12.1.4
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
12.1.4 Doors serving an area of refuge A door serving an immediate area of refuge shall: a. b. be leakage-rated complying with NFPA 105; have a clear width complying with CSA/ASC B651; c. be equipped with a power door operator capable of being activated in the event of a loss of power via emergency power or alternative power
What should we change it to?
In C Add a phrase after the words, alternate power so that a door can be manually operated. 12.1.4 Doors serving an area of refuge A door serving an immediate area of refuge shall: a. b. be leakage-rated complying with NFPA 105; have a clear width complying with CSA/ASC B651; c. be equipped with a power door operator capable of being activated in the event of a loss of power via emergency power or alternative power New text starts here or manually.
Why should we change it?
Many emergency situations result in loss of power, either because of the emergency itself, or power being cut off from the entire facility as a measure of caution. For these reasons, it is necessary to have the door being operated manually, so that no one is trapped inside.
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12.1.4 Doors serving an area of refuge
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12.1.4
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1769031174110_477
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s12.1.5
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
12.1.5 Interior of areas of refuge The interior of an area of refuge shall: a. provide a minimum of two waiting spaces to accommodate a clear unobstructed floor space not less than 900 mm by 1500 mm for each space; b. be served by a 2100 mm turning radius; c. be located clear of any adjacent door swing; d. be illuminated, minimum 200 lux; e. be connected to the backup power; and f. be free of protrusions.
What should we change it to?
Add letter G , indicating that the size of this area should be calculated according to the appropriate code or the number of people that might use it. 12.1.5 Interior of areas of refuge The interior of an area of refuge shall: a. provide a minimum of two waiting spaces to accommodate a clear unobstructed floor space not less than 900 mm by 1500 mm for each space; b. be served by a 2100 mm turning radius; c. be located clear of any adjacent door swing; d. be illuminated, minimum 200 lux; e. be connected to the backup power; and f. be free of protrusions. New text starts here G. have a size calculated according to the appropriate fire or building code or number of people who might use it.
Why should we change it?
This clause is for the minimum size of a refuge area, and a quick reading of it might indicate that a space for two persons is adequate. It is necessary to indicate that the space might be larger than for two persons, and that the appropriate code is followed
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12.1.5 Interior of areas of refuge
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12.1.5
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1769031327368_584
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s12.1.6
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
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12.1.6 Clear waiting space The clear waiting space shall: a. be connected to the accessible path of travel; b. be recessed away from the common path of travel; c. be positioned to avoid someone being directly in front of or behind another individual; d. be clearly delineated along the floor; e. not be located directly facing the stairs or behind the exit door; and f. have separate emergency lighting and ventilation systems supported by a backup generator.
What should we change it to?
Add letter G and H G. be safe and used in those cases where the person's exiting the facility need to pause , for any reason, between their original spot, for a short period of time on their path to egress the emergency situation. H. Have complete access to all communication, facilities, backed up by emergency power
Why should we change it?
Specifications must be added to the waiting area to ensure they are survivable while they are being used
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12.1.6 Clear waiting space
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12.1.6
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1769033950214_342
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s12.1.8
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
12.1.8 Signage An area of refuge shall have an identification sign on the door stating the type of area with the International Pictogram of Access. An additional sign shall be posted on the side of the door or appropriate place,, complying with CSA/ASC B651.12.1.8.1
What should we change it to?
Harmonize this signage standard to all areas, not just refuge. Add requirements that sign must have location information. 12.1.8 Signage An area of refuge, shelter, muster point, or waiting area shall have an identification sign on the door or appropriate place stating the AREA with the International Pictogram of Access. An additional sign shall be posted on the side of the door, or appropriate place complying with CSA/ASC B651.12.1.8.1 New text starts here All of these signs will have information on them, which gives the location in a way that emergency personnel can easily locate them. All signage will Conform and harmonize with signage standards for accessibility, usability and legibility including font style, size, color, and contrast and standards for alternate formats.
Why should we change it?
The standard for signage should be harmonized throughout all areas where persons might congregate while waiting for evacuation. In a large facility, and during an emergency, it is easy to lose track of location. For this reason, every refuge room shelter, waiting area, muster point , , and waiting area, shall have signage that indicates the location in a way that enables emergency personnel to easily know the location of the person in the shelter, refuge, muster, or waiting area.
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12.1.8 Signage
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12.1.8
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1769034003246_665
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s12.1.8
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
An area of refuge shall have an identification sign on the door stating AREA OF REFUGE with the International Pictogram of Access. An additional sign shall be posted on the side of the door, complying with CSA/ASC B651.12.1.8.1 Directional signage Directional signage Emergency egress directional signage to the area of refuge shall be provided at decision points throughout the building
What should we change it to?
Add a line after the description of directional signage. 12.1.8 Signage An area of refuge shall have an identification sign on the door stating AREA OF REFUGE with the International Pictogram of Access. An additional sign shall be posted on the side of the door, complying with CSA/ASC B651.12.1.8.1 Every Directional signage Emergency egress directional signage to the area of refuge shall be provided at decision points throughout the building. New text starts here directional sign at every decision point shall have an additional identification that identifies the location of the decision point in a way that makes it easy for emergency personnel to know the location of whoever is referencing that particular decision point. Each directional sign shall be self luminous. This location identification shall also be in braille and large print
Why should we change it?
In a large facility, and during an emergency, it is easy to lose track of location. For this reason, every directional sign at every decision point , shall have marking that indicates the location in a way that enables emergency personnel to easily know the location of the person in at the directional sign or decision point..
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12.1.8 Signage
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12.1.8
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1769034112646_858
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s12.2.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Editorial such as spelling, grammar, formatting and accessibility
What should we change?
Doors and power doors are listed in several sections of the standard, but there seems to be inconsistencies in what happens during an emergency. Some sections called for power back up, some call for connection to emergency back up or generator,. . None handle the possibility of a complete power or power back up failure.
What should we change it to?
The standard should be made consistent, especially being able to open the door manually, when all else fails.
Why should we change it?
It is important for a standard to be consistent, and the description in this draft standard around door operation in a emergency seem to be less than consistent. 5. What kind of suggestion are you making?
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12.2.1 Power door operators on horizontal exit doors
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12.2.1
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1769034218262_320
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s12.3.1
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12.3.1 Interior egress path of travel The interior egress path of travel shall comply with CSA/ASC-B651. Static escalators, stair lifts and moving walks shall not be permitted as part of the interior egress path of travel. All elements in the interior egress path of travel shall be accessible, including: a. to and from all floor areas of a building; and b. to and from all interior doors to exterior exit doors. In addition, the interior egress path of travel shall: a. where there is a rise over 13 mm, have a slope of no steeper than 1:25. See Ramps 12.7; b. be free of protrusions to a height of 2100 mm; c. be illuminated to a minimum level of 200 lux; andd. be free of overly patterned carpeting.
What should we change it to?
Add extra conditions starting with D. 12.3.1 Interior egress path of travel The interior egress path of travel shall comply with CSA/ASC-B651. Static escalators, stair lifts and moving walks shall not be permitted as part of the interior egress path of travel. All elements in the interior egress path of travel shall be accessible, including: a. to and from all floor areas of a building; and b. to and from all interior doors to exterior exit doors. In addition, the interior egress path of travel shall: a. where there is a rise over 13 mm, have a slope of no steeper than 1:25. See Ramps 12.7; b. be free of protrusions to a height of 2100 mm; c. be illuminated to a minimum level of 200 lux; andd. be free of overly patterned carpeting. New text starts here D. Have lighting connected to emergency back up power, which will also light up directional signs at every decision point. E. Where possible, egress paths will have illuminated, or self luminous directional markings on the floor. F. Signage identifying the egress pads shall be identified on the emergency fire safety map posted throughout the building.
Why should we change it?
In an emergency, often power is disrupted, or disconnected by emergency personnel. In such a case, the interior of the building can become quite dark, and so it is necessary to have emergency back up power on all egress paths as well as directional signs.
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12.3.1 Interior egress path of travel
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12.3.1
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1769034303933_38
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s12.4
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12.4 Muster points All buildings shall have muster points served by an accessible exterior egress path of travel. The muster point shall be a minimum of 3000 mm x 3000 mm. Signage with the muster point symbol shall be provided between 1600 mm and 2500 mm above the ground surface. Signage identifying the muster points shall be identified on the emergency fire safety map posted throughout the building. Benches or seating provided for the muster point shall comply with CSA/ASC B651. The muster point shall: a. be provided with a rest area equipped with a bench or seating alternative; b. have a pavement marking not less than 1 m by 1 m identifying the international symbol of muster points, where located on a hard surface; c. be illuminated; and d. be recessed away from and served by an exterior egress path of travel complying with Clause 12.3.2.
What should we change it to?
Add conditions starting with letter E. , 12.4 Muster points All buildings shall have muster points served by an accessible exterior egress path of travel. The muster point shall be a minimum of 3000 mm x 3000 mm. Signage with the muster point symbol shall be provided between 1600 mm and 2500 mm above the ground surface. Signage identifying the muster points shall be identified on the emergency fire safety map posted throughout the building. Benches or seating provided for the muster point shall comply with CSA/ASC B651. The muster point shall: a. be provided with a rest area equipped with a bench or seating alternative; b. have a pavement marking not less than 1 m by 1 m identifying the international symbol of muster points, where located on a hard surface; c. be illuminated; and d. be recessed away from and served by an exterior egress path of travel complying with Clause 12.3.2. New text starts here E. have a size that is calculated with information about the use of the building, the size of the building, number of occupants or visitors, distance from the egress door, factors that might make the speed to get out of the building important, availability and numbers of of buddies or staff members to aid in persons with disabilities. F. be connected with all communication facilities, which will be backed up by battery or emergency generators. H. Be connected to emergency ventilation systems
Why should we change it?
The purpose of a muster point is to allow accumulation and survival of persons until assistance arrives. The size of this muster point is dependent on many factors , and these must be part of the standard.
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12.4 Muster points
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12.4
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1769034382837_938
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s12.6.1
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12.6.1 Tactile information on stair and ramp handrails Stair and ramp handrails shall have raised characters with braille permanently fixed on the underside of the horizontal section, at the beginning and at the end of every handrail on stairs indicating: a. the floor number; b. the direction of egress; and c. the exit floor shall be indicated by a tactile star.
What should we change it to?
Add a phrase, D, that the signage on the underside should also indicate the location of the stairwell. 12.6.1 Tactile information on stair and ramp handrails Stair and ramp handrails shall have raised characters with braille permanently fixed on the underside of the horizontal section, at the beginning and at the end of every handrail on stairs indicating: a. the floor number; b. the direction of egress; and c. the exit floor shall be indicated by a tactile star. New text starts here D. the location of the stairwell Will be marked in such a way that emergency personnel can easily identify the exact location of that particular railing.
Why should we change it?
An emergency often causes a person to not know exactly where they are. In order for emergency personnel to be able to locate and aid in the egress of any person, they must know exactly the location of a person, should that person need to be rescued from that location. For that reason, just knowing the floor number on a stairwell is not sufficient. It is necessary to know exactly which stairwell, which building, between which floors, which landing, so that exact location is known.
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12.6.1 Tactile information on stair and ramp handrails
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12.6.1
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1769034479380_367
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s11
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Editorial such as spelling, grammar, formatting and accessibility
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Harmonize the specifications and conditions for refuge, muster, shelter, waiting, and fire compartment areas
What should we change it to?
Harmonize the condition, such as lighting, emergency power, signage, Communications, and size
Why should we change it?
The areas listed are all a place where persons with disabilities might congregate during an emergency, waiting for evacuation. It is my feeling that these specifications and conditions are not harmonized, and an effort should be made to do so.
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12. Built environment
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12.
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1769034601388_882
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s12.1.7
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12.1.7 Areas of refuge communication A communication system shall: a. be provided in each area of refuge; b. c. be equipped with a hands-free two-way communication system that is at a maximum height of 1200 mm; provide feedback to occupants acknowledging receipt of their communication (similar to an elevator); d. be adjacent to a clear space of 900 x 1500 mm; e. be connected to backup power; f. g. be connected to an emergency response system; have a two-way texting system complying with International Telecommunications Union (ITU) V.18, “Operational and interworking requirements for DCEs operating in the text telephone mode,” to support people who are Deaf, deafblind or hard of hearing; and h. be linked to security or emergency call centre. A communication system should be equipped with a volume control device
What should we change it to?
Add one more condition, letter I. I. all communication systems that a person with a disability might use will be available, resilient, and fire resistant in this and all areas used in emergency situations.
Why should we change it?
Persons with disabilities use many communication systems, the most popular one is the smart phone connected to Wi-Fi or mobile cellular systems. The communication system used inside a facility must be compatible with, and fire resistant, so that communication can be maintained.
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12.1.7 Areas of refuge communication
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12.1.7
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1769034879375_83
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s13.1.1
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A single-stage system is designed so that, when activated, the alarm signal shall be immediately transmitted throughout the building to warn the occupants that an emergency exists.
What should we change it to?
Add more description at the end of this item to make it more clear to a person with a disability through the appropriate communication channels, and updates until all clear signals are given 13.1.1 Single-stage system A single-stage system is designed so that, when activated, the alarm signal shall be immediately transmitted throughout the building to warn the occupants that an emergency exists. New text starts here The alarm signal that is transmitted will use Barrier free communication systems that are compatible with the needs of persons with disabilities. Because there is no action necessary when this signal is transmitted, a subsequent, all clear, signal will be transmitted to indicate that the emergency has been resolved. To ensure that the system is failsafe, if a period of more than three minutes passes before the, all clear, signal is transmitted, another signal, indicating that the emergency is still pending, but not resolved, will be transmitted every three minutes. If possible, when the, pending signal is transmitted, a description of the emergency, location, seriousness, action, being taken, would also be helpful.
Why should we change it?
To a person with a disability, receiving a signal that indicates an emergency is ongoing causes enormous stress, and anxiety. It might also cause them to put themselves in danger by trying to protect themselves, perhaps moving to another location, calling a buddy or other assistance, person, putting on protective clothing, or while trying to activate their personal communication device, make it inoperable. For this reason, when an emergency alarm is activated, there must be the knowledge that the process will keep every person up-to-date, on a regular and frequent basis, as well as declare and all clear. Can we clarify in a Single stage System how a notification of an evacuation is handled. What kind of suggestion are you making?
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13.1.1 Single-stage system
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13.1.1
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1769034983925_723
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s13.1.2
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In a two-stage alarm system, a distinct alert signal shall first advise of the emergency. Note: A two-stage system is used in facilities where the immediate evacuation of the occupants is neither desired nor practical. The second notification in the two-stage alarm system will advise occupants on how to proceed. C-section 13 point XX Both single stage and two stage systems cause the fire alarm panel to send signals to the fire department or monitoring station (fire alarm receiving centre or 9-1-1 Centre). Alarm signals to evacuate occupants do not sound. Notification is via a voice announcement. Technical requirements for fire alarm systems are provided in the NFC.
What should we change it to?
Add a paragraph at the end. The alarm signal that is transmitted will use Barrier free communication systems that are compatible with the needs of persons with disabilities. Because there is no action necessary when parts of this signal is transmitted, a , all clear, signal will be transmitted to indicate that the emergency has been resolved. To ensure that the system is failsafe, if a period of more than three minutes passes before the, all clear, signal is transmitted, another signal, indicating that the emergency is still pending, but not resolved, will be transmitted every three minutes. If possible, when the, pending signal is transmitted, a description of the emergency, seriousness, action, being taken, would also be helpful. If there are any Voice announcements, there will be a identical transmission of this message in a barrier freeway that works for the communication systems used by persons with disabilities.
Why should we change it?
An emergency signal causes stress and anxiety for persons with disability. For this reason, all signals must be clear, and updates and all clear signals must be part of the process.
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13.1.2 Two-stage system
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13.1.2
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1769035041854_181
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s13.1.2
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13.1.2 Two-stage system In a two-stage alarm system, a distinct alert signal shall first advise of the emergency. Note: A two-stage system is used in facilities where the immediate evacuation of the occupants is neither desired nor practical. The second notification in the two-stage alarm system will advise occupants on how to proceed. Both single stage and two stage systems cause the fire alarm panel to send signals to the fire department or monitoring station (fire alarm receiving centre or 9-1-1 Centre). Alarm signals to evacuate occupants do not sound. Notification is via a voice announcement.
What should we change it to?
There are a few statements in this section that should be clarified. 1. Note: A two-stage system is used in facilities where the immediate evacuation of the occupants is neither desired nor practical. Can you give some examples? Prisons? Hospitals? This signal is not when there is an immediate need for an evacuation, but how long might it take before that need becomes necessary. 2. Alarm signals to evacuate occupants do not sound. Notification is via a voice announcement. If notification is given using voice, what about persons who are deaf, or DEF Blind. 3. Like the single stage system, there must be communication while the emergency is pending as updates, on a frequent basis, as well as an all clear signal. 4. Clarify that the, how to proceed, signal, might be a signal to evacuate, although this is neither immediate, planned nor desirable
Why should we change it?
This section is somewhat less than clear, and needs to be clarified.
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13.1.2 Two-stage system
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13.1.2
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1769035112948_330
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s13.1.3
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Add a line at the end of both section
What should we change it to?
Add this line at the end of each of these two sections. The visible strobe signal in the event of a fire, shall also be accompanied by a communication Barrier free systems that use communication systems used by persons with disabilities.. C-section 13 point XX.
Why should we change it?
A visible stroke signal will not work for persons with certain disabilities, in particular those with impaired vision or no vision. In addition, certain neurodivergent conditions might be triggered by an intense strobe light.
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13.1.3 Where a fire alarm system is provided
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13.1.3
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1769035195693_470
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heading-90
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13.1.4.1 Emergency communication formats Building managers shall ensure communication systems that can alert all building occupants are in place in the event of an emergency. Note 1: Clear and efficient communication with everyone, including regular occupants and visitors, will enhance the safety of all building users during an emergency. All building occupants shall: a. b. receive emergency egress information in the format of their choice; and discuss format choices during the preparation of an individual’s personal emergency egress plan. Some building occupants may need information in various formats, including: a. large print; b. electronic messaging; c. speech synthesizers; d. an electronic pager; or e. sign language interpretation.
What should we change it to?
Add letter F 13.1.4.1 Emergency communication formats Building managers shall ensure communication systems that can alert all building occupants are in place in the event of an emergency. Note 1: Clear and efficient communication with everyone, including regular occupants and visitors, will enhance the safety of all building users during an emergency. All building occupants shall: a. b. receive emergency egress information in the format of their choice; and Receive egress information in the format selected during the preparation of an individual’s personal emergency egress plan. Some building occupants may need information in various formats, including: a. large print; b. electronic messaging; c. speech synthesizers; d. an electronic pager; or e. sign language interpretation. New text starts here F. ensure barrier free communication systems backed up by emergency power or generators are available that are compatible with all communication systems used by persons with disabilities
Why should we change it?
During an emergency, Communications are absolutely vital to ensure efficient egress and survival. The communication systems used by persons with disabilities, in various format, must be connected with the communication, alarm and notification systems in the building.
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13.1.4.1 Emergency communication formats
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13.1.4.1
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1769035258541_642
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heading-90
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Building managers shall ensure communication systems that can alert all building occupants are in place in the event of an emergency. Note 1: Clear and efficient communication with everyone, including regular occupants and visitors, will enhance the safety of all building users during an emergency. All building occupants shall: a. b. receive emergency egress information in the format of their choice; and discuss format choices during the preparation of an individual’s personal emergency egress plan. Some building occupants may need information in various formats, including: a. large print; b. electronic messaging; c. speech synthesizers; d. an electronic pager; or e. sign language interpretation.
What should we change it to?
Replace the following phrase. Some building occupants may need information in various formats, including: a. large print; b. electronic messaging; c. speech synthesizers; d. an electronic pager; or e. sign language interpretation. And replace with Some building occupants may need information in a format identified in the personal emergency evacuation plan, or any other Barrier free format that works with communication systems used by persons with disabilities.
Why should we change it?
The technology that persons with disabilities use is changing rapidly. Some of those listed here, such as electronic pagers, are no longer used, and some, such as smart glasses, or smart phones, with speech to text or text to speech, are not mentioned at all. For this reason, a more functional specification should be used.
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13.1.4.1 Emergency communication formats
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13.1.4.1
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1769035391364_604
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s13.2.1
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13.2.1 Alerting or signaling devices There are a variety of signaling devices available that provide either visible, audible or tactile cues to signal an alarm. Information on alerting devices and emergency alerting systems in Canada is provided in Annex C (https://accessible.canada.ca/creating-accessibility-standards/can-asc- 22-emergency-egress-exit/20-annex-c-emergency-alerting-and-communication-technologies-persons-disabilities). Lower frequency audible alarms should be provided for people who are hard of hearing. Note: They are particularly effective when the building occupant is asleep. Also available for people sleeping are assistive technologies that provide alerts by a flashing light and/or a pillow vibrating device placed under the pillow when triggered by a fire or smoke alarm.
What should we change it to?
Add a sentence before Lower frequency audible alarms should be provided for people who are hard of hearing Add the following This standard works in certain situations, but other technologies and devices shall be used in particular, those Communication barrier free systems and devices that are suitable for persons with disabilities.
Why should we change it?
The standard specified in NXC is really made for emergency alerts over an entire area, not in a particular building. In addition, it is somewhat limited, and so a functional description must be added. For this reason, other devices and techniques must be used that work for persons with disabilities in a particular facility, or a part of a particular facility.
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13.2.1 Alerting or signaling devices
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13.2.1
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1769035531660_752
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s13.2.2
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13.2.2 Visible device location Visible signal devices (strobes) shall be connected to a power source and emit a strobe light. The signal shall be provided in both public and private areas of a building. Visible signal devices shall be; a. located in conformance with the installation requirements for visible signal devices in CAN/ULC-S524.
What should we change it to?
Add a phrase at the end Every visible signal Location shall also have technologies that enable any person with a disability to receive the same message as if they were able to receive the information from the visible signal device in a barrier freeway compatible with the technology used by persons with disabilities.
Why should we change it?
Visible signal devices work for the general population, but there are many persons with disabilities for whom this is not appropriate. For this reason, technologies must be added to these devices to ensure that every occupant, resident, or visitor can receive the message sent by the visible signal device.
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13.2.2 Visible device location
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13.2.2
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1769035716362_860
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s13.2.3
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13.2.3 Smart phonesCommunication tools such as smart phones or mobile phones are increasingly being used by everyone. They are an excellent form of communication as they can receive audio and tactile alerts to notify of an incoming message and can be used in text and voice (audible) formats. Alert signals shall be transmitted via the National Public Alert System by all telecommunications providers. See Annex C (https://accessible.canada.ca/creating-accessibility-standards/can-asc-22-emergency-egress-exit/20-annex-c-emergency-alerting-and- communication-technologies-persons-disabilities) for information on national and provincial alert systems.
What should we change it to?
Add a sentence at the end indicating the difference between the standard listed in annex C, which is a general, widespread notification system, and the notifications necessary in and particular facility during an emergency. 13.2.3 Smart phonesCommunication tools such as smart phones or mobile phones are increasingly being used by everyone. They are an excellent form of communication as they can receive audio and tactile alerts to notify of an incoming message and can be used in text and voice (audible) formats. Alert signals shall be transmitted via the National Public Alert System by all telecommunications providers. See Annex C (https://accessible.canada.ca/creating-accessibility-standards/can-asc-22-emergency-egress-exit/20-annex-c-emergency-alerting-and- communication-technologies-persons-disabilities) for information on national and provincial alert systems. New text starts here the notification system described in NXC is used for widespread announcements of emergency situations. every facility must also have an notification system suitable for use by persons with disabilities at the beginning, during, and at the end of any emergency. smart phones and devices are suitable for this notification system, but there might be certain persons with disabilities who require other devices or systems to be aware of emergency egress and exit instructions during an emergency
Why should we change it?
The system described in annex is designed for use to alert a general population of an emergency in a particular area. It may not be suitable for all persons with disabilities, or might be too widespread to be of use during the emergency instructions necessary to perform a safe egress from a facility. For this reason, the standard must be amended to ensure that all situations are covered, not just those by the technology in annex C.
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13.2.3 Smart phones
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13.2.3
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1769035923923_942
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s13.3
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13.3 Emergency telephones Where provided, an emergency telephone shall: a. b. c. d. e. display the symbol for an Emergency Phone; provide its operable parts not more than 1200 mm from the floor; have the illumination level measured at the operating devices at least 200 lux; be hearing aid compatible; and have a volume control with amplification of (30-50 dB).
What should we change it to?
Add a few conditions at the end starting with letter F to enable all persons with disabilities, particular, blind, or deaf, to have a safe emergency egress. 13.3 Emergency telephones 13.3 Emergency telephones Where provided, an emergency telephone shall: a. b. c. d. e. display the symbol for an Emergency Phone; provide its operable parts not more than 1200 mm from the floor; have the illumination level measured at the operating devices at least 200 lux; be hearing aid compatible; and have a volume control with amplification of (30-50 dB). New text starts here F connected to an emergency backup generator or emergency backup battery system G. have signage indicating the exact location of the emergency telephone so that emergency personnel can easily identify the position of any caller H. Ensure that for any person with a disability for whom the emergency telephone is not suitable, that every other system used in a barrier free way by persons with disability of communication works in the same location as the emergency telephone..
Why should we change it?
The emergency telephone does not work for all persons, and in all those locations, all other communication systems must work also.
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13.3 Emergency telephones
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13.3
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1769035989961_665
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s13.4
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13.4 Public announcements Whenever a public announcement is provided in an audio format, it shall be provided at designated areas on all floors of a building in text display and transmitted electronically to building occupants. All public announcements relating to emergency egress shall be provided in a variety of formats, including: a. audible announcements; b. broadcasting to hearing technologies and implantable devices; c. visual announcements; and d. electronic announcements. Note: Variable message boards should also be used. When provided, variable message boards shall: a. b. not use pre-recorded messages for emergency information; utilize a well-contrasted characters (avoiding red and green or blue on a black background); c. be mounted at a maximum height of 1500 mm; and d. be centrally located.
What should we change it to?
Add a line starting with letter E to ensure that whatever communication system is used, that there be a communication system that works for every person with a disability. 13.4 Public announcements Whenever a public announcement is provided in an audio format, it shall be provided at designated areas on all floors of a building in text display and transmitted electronically to building occupants. All public announcements relating to emergency egress shall be provided in a variety of formats, including: a. audible announcements; b. broadcasting to hearing technologies and implantable devices; c. visual announcements; and d. electronic announcements. New text starts here E. Every public announcement or message Board notification will also be communicated using Barrier free communication systems and devices that are compatible with those used by persons with disabilities. New text ends here Note: Variable message boards should also be used. When provided, variable message boards shall: a. b. not use pre-recorded messages for emergency information; utilize a well-contrasted characters (avoiding red and green or blue on a black background); c. be mounted at a maximum height of 1500 mm; and d. be centrally located.
Why should we change it?
This clause lists various technologies for public announcements, however, there are certain persons with disabilities, deaf, or blind, as examples for whom these technologies are not suitable. For this reason, there must be an additional phrase to ensure that no person with a disability is left during an emergency without a communication system that works for them.
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13.4 Public announcements
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13.4
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1769036124915_152
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s13.5
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13.5 Audio systems (assistive listening systems) A permanent assistive audio system shall be provided where there is an exchange of emergency information, including in the following floor areas: a. in elevators; b. as part of emergency warning intercom systems; c. as part of all public announcement systems; and d. at security checkpoints.
What should we change it to?
Add a line starting with letter E 13.5 Audio systems (assistive listening systems) A permanent assistive audio system shall be provided where there is an exchange of emergency information, including in the following floor areas: a. in elevators; b. as part of emergency warning intercom systems; c. as part of all public announcement systems; and d. at security checkpoints. New text starts here E any assistive system that meets the conditions of this clause shall also be integrated with all communications systems that are necessary for persons with disabilities to receive the appropriate instructions during an emergency egress in a barrier free way. situation.
Why should we change it?
Because this clause is focused on audio systems, it is unsuitable for persons with disabilities, in particular, those who are deaf or heart of hearing, and a person with low or no vision might also need more instruction than can be had through an audio system. For this reason, whatever information comes through this audio system, must also be able to be transmitted to every person, including those with disabilities.
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13.5 Audio systems (assistive listening systems)
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13.5
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1769036528464_42
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s13
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14. Illumination and emergency power Illumination of accessible egress paths of travel and Areas of Refuge shall be: a. no less than 200 lux at floor level; b. be placed to avoid glare; and c. supplemented by emergency power. Separate emergency lighting and ventilation systems shall be supported by a backup generator. Emergency electrical power will ensure adequate emergency lighting for the use of elevators and key operating components or other systems during a power outage. A photoluminescence lighting system along the floor should be provided to indicate the accessible egress path of travel. Illumination in elevators shall be a minimum of 100 lux.
What should we change it to?
Add the words, muster, waiting, or shelter, after the word, refuge. 14. Illumination and emergency power Illumination of accessible egress paths of travel and Areas of Refuge Muster, waiting, or shelter shall be: a. no less than 200 lux at floor level; b. be placed to avoid glare; and c. supplemented by emergency power. Separate emergency lighting and ventilation systems shall be supported by a backup generator. Emergency electrical power will ensure adequate emergency lighting for the use of elevators and key operating components or other systems during a power outage. A photoluminescence lighting system along the floor should be provided to indicate the accessible egress path of travel. Illumination in elevators shall be a minimum of 100 lux.
Why should we change it?
Every area where persons might be gathered, waiting for help during an emergency egress must be appropriately lit. These include not only refuge, but also waiting, muster, or shelter. The word photoluminescence is somewhat technical, and should either be placed in the definitions, or perhaps the more familiar, glow in the dark phrase used.
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1769036777040_127
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s15.1
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15.1 General The use of elevators for evacuation is one key strategy for evacuation of people who are unable to use stairs.
What should we change it to?
Enlarge the choice of using this type of elevator during an emergency By adding to the phrase after, using the stairs.. 15.1 General The use of elevators for evacuation is one key strategy for evacuation of people who are unable to use stairs. New text starts here and for evacuation of people who decide that this type of elevator is a safer or more rapid method of egress then stairs during an evacuation
Why should we change it?
The use of this type of elevator should not be limited to those that are unable to use stairs. If this type of elevator is the safest and most rapid evacuation route, then anyone should be allowed to use it. In particular, persons with some types of disabilities struggle with stairs, even in the best of times, especially those who are blind, deaf, blind, or have impaired vision, and so this type of elevator must be able to be used by them.
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15.1 General
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15.1
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1769040013855_820
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s15.3
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
15.3 Occupant evacuation elevators An Occupant Evacuation Elevator (OEE) is designed to be used for evacuation purposes by people unable to use the stairs.
What should we change it to?
Enlarge the choice of using this type of elevator during an emergency By adding to the phrase after,. Use the stairs.. 15.3 Occupant evacuation elevators An Occupant Evacuation Elevator (OEE) is designed to be used for evacuation purposes by people unable to use the stairs. New text starts here and for evacuation of people who decide that this type of elevator is a safer or more rapid method of egress then stairs during an evacuation.
Why should we change it?
The use of this type of elevator should not be limited to those that are unable to use stairs. If this type of elevator is the safest and most rapid evacuation route, then anyone should be allowed to use it. In particular, persons with some types of disabilities struggle with stairs, even in the best of times, especially those who are blind, deaf, blind, or have impaired vision, and so this type of elevator must be able to be used by them.
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15.3 Occupant evacuation elevators
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15.3
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1769040131527_848
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s15.3.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
15.3.1 InformationAn Occupant Evacuation Elevator ( OEE) is designed to be used for evacuation purposes by people unable to use the stairs.
What should we change it to?
Enlarge the use of this type of elevator by adding to the phrase, people unable to use the stairs. 15.3.1 InformationAn Occupant Evacuation Elevator (OEE) is designed to be used for evacuation purposes by people unable to use the stairs. New text starts here and can be used by people who decide that this type of elevator is a safer or more rapid method of egress then stairs
Why should we change it?
The use of this type of elevator should not be limited to those that are unable to use stairs. If this type of elevator is the safest and most rapid evacuation route, then anyone should be allowed to use it. In particular, persons with some types of disabilities struggle with stairs, even in the best of times, especially those who are blind, deaf, blind, or have impaired vision, and so this type of elevator must be able to be used by them.
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15.3.1 Information
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15.3.1
Item id
1769040253464_116
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s15.3.1
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
15.3.1 InformationAn Occupant Evacuation Elevator (OEE) is designed to be used for evacuation purposes by people unable to use the stairs. A two-way text/communication system shall be provided inside and outside the OEE elevators. A two-way text communication system inside and outside elevators are available that will provide a visual screen to connect with security. Alternately, Wi-Fi availability can facilitate communication
What should we change it to?
Add a phrase after Alternately, Wi-Fi availability can facilitate communication. 15.3.1 InformationAn Occupant Evacuation Elevator (OEE) is designed to be used for evacuation purposes by people unable to use the stairs. A two-way text/communication system shall be provided inside and outside the OEE elevators. A two-way text communication system inside and outside elevators are available that will provide a visual screen to connect with security. Alternately, Wi-Fi availability can facilitate communication. New text starts here Any two way system or visual screen shall also have technologies, integrated, or nearby in a failsafe manner, such that persons with disabilities using Barrier free accessible and usable, technologies will receive all notifications and announcements, before, during, and after an emergency or evacuation.
Why should we change it?
Any system that delivers notifications to the occupants, residence or visitors in a building must deliver messages to everyone who is there, including persons with disabilities.
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15.3.1 Information
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15.3.1
Item id
1769040374910_561
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s15.3.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
15.3.1 InformationAn Occupant Evacuation Elevator (OEE) is designed to be used for evacuation purposes by people unable to use the stairs. A two-way text/communication system shall be provided inside and outside the OEE elevators. A two-way text communication system inside and outside elevators are available that will provide a visual screen to connect with security. Alternately, Wi-Fi availability can facilitate communication. Information on its use shall: a. be incorporated into the fire safety plan; b. be incorporated into the PEEPs, when appropriate; and c. be included in the posted fire safety evacuation plan. Occupants of a building shall be instructed in how to use and when to operate an OEE. There shall be signs posted on all floors adjacent to each elevator call station for OEEs.
What should we change it to?
Add a line at the end enhancing the ability to locate this type of elevator during an emergency. Just a sign is not sufficient. 15.3.1 InformationAn Occupant Evacuation Elevator (OEE) is designed to be used for evacuation purposes by people unable to use the stairs. A two-way text/communication system shall be provided inside and outside the OEE elevators. A two-way text communication system inside and outside elevators are available that will provide a visual screen to connect with security. Alternately, Wi-Fi availability can facilitate communication. Information on its use shall: a. be incorporated into the fire safety plan; b. be incorporated into the PEEPs, when appropriate; and c. be included in the posted fire safety evacuation plan. Occupants of a building shall be instructed in how to use and when to operate an OEE. There shall be signs posted on all floors adjacent to each elevator call station for OEEs. New text starts here In addition to signs posted on every floor for this type of elevator, there shall be notification and announcement Barrier free, accessible, and usable, systems suitable for persons with disabilities, such as voice alerts, identification, flashing light, and tactile markings on the floor to announce this type of elevator.
Why should we change it?
As this type of elevator might be the safest and most rapid route of evacuation, it is essential that anybody be able to find them during the stress, noise, and perhaps reduced visibility of an emergency. For this reason, notification and announcement enhancements such as those listed must be installed.
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15.3.1 Information
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15.3.1
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1769040446639_422
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s15.4.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
15.4.1 Space All elevators shall provide a clear floor area of 2,010 mm minimum in length and 610 mm minimum in width to accommodate a stretcher in the prone position and additional space for two persons.
What should we change it to?
Replace, additional space for two persons, with a clause indicating how this number is to be calculated. 15.4.1 Space All elevators shall provide a clear floor area of 2,010 mm minimum in length and 610 mm minimum in width to accommodate a stretcher in the prone position New text starts here and additional space for the number of persons that is appropriate for the number of occupants, residence, and visitors, as well as the number of elevators and floors.
Why should we change it?
From a risk management perspective, the elevator of this type might be the safest and most rapid way to evacuate the building, and so many people might decide to use it. This number must be calculated proportionate to the number of persons in the building , and other factors, so that the maximum number of people can be evacuated in a safe manner.
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15.4.1 Space
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15.4.1
Item id
1769040503320_398
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s15.4.3
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
15.4.3 Identification An elevator that is designed to accommodate a stretcher or OEE shall be clearly identified on every level the elevator serves.
What should we change it to?
Add a clause at the end, indicating that the elevator of this type must be identified in a way that works for persons with disabilities. 15.4.3 Identification An elevator that is designed to accommodate a stretcher or OEE shall be clearly identified on every level the elevator serves. New text starts here In addition to signs posted on every floor for this type of elevator, there shall be notification and announcement Barrier free, accessible, and usable systems suitable for persons with disabilities, such as voice alerts, identification, flashing light, and tactile markings on the floor.
Why should we change it?
As this type of elevator might be the safest and most rapid route of evacuation, it is essential that anybody be able to find them during the stress, noise, and perhaps Limited visibility of an emergency. For this reason, notification and announcement enhancements such as those listed must be installed.
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15.4.3 Identification
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15.4.3
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1769040563854_329
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s15.5
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
15.5 Elevator controls Elevator car controls shall: a. b. c. d. be mounted on the front and side walls of the elevator cab; be mounted at a maximum height of 1200 mm; be equipped with braille and raised characters on buttons located to the left of the operation button; and have a well-contrasted operation button.
What should we change it to?
Change clause E to a height that fits the general population. 15.5 Elevator controls Elevator car controls shall: a. b. c. d. be mounted on the front and side walls of the elevator cab; be mounted at a maximum height that matches the median height of occupants and residence;
Why should we change it?
From a standard perspective, it is understandable to choose a height of control surfaces that match the person whose reach is limited to a certain amount that might need these controls. From a risk management perspective, the choice of height must match the most persons that are able to use it. For this reason, the height of the control surface, must meet the needs of the person's in the facility on an average basis, not the person with the least Reach. In addition, for persons with disabilities, perhaps vision, impairment, neurodivergent, or less able to kneel, stretch, or bend to be able to enact these controls, the height must be appropriate for them.
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15.5 Elevator controls
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15.5
Item id
1769040624893_805
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s15.5
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
15.5 Elevator controls Elevator car controls shall: a. b. c. d. be mounted on the front and side walls of the elevator cab; be mounted at a maximum height of 1200 mm; be equipped with braille and raised characters on buttons located to the left of the operation button; and have a well-contrasted operation button.
What should we change it to?
Add a line F, , indicating function appropriate for emergency use. 15.5 Elevator controls Elevator car controls shall: a. b. c. d. be mounted on the front and side walls of the elevator cab; be mounted at a maximum height of 1200 mm; be equipped with braille and raised characters on buttons located to the left of the operation button; and have a well-contrasted operation button. F. Any elevator of this type must have a Barrier free, accessible, and usable system that enables persons with disabilities to direct it to the floor that has the safest evacuation route.
Why should we change it?
During the stress of an emergency, it may be difficult for a person with a disability to know, or select the correct floor. For this reason, there must be an embedded system that can direct the occupant, resident, or visitor to the safest floor. for a safe evacuation route. For this reason, such a system must be embedded into the elevator, in fail safe a manner.
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15.5 Elevator controls
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15.5
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1769042154938_103
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s16.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
16.1 Application All signage and way finding relating to emergency egress shall be accessible and shall include text, visual, tactile and Braille characters. There are different types of signage that relate to emergency egress for various purposes: a. regulatory signs, which include information, including safety and emergency signs; b. mandatory signs which denote an order requiring an action; and c. warning signs such as caution and danger signs denote a potential hazard and a definite hazard. Note: Red, blue or green LEDs shall be avoided on a black background as they are unreadable for most people with vision loss
What should we change it to?
The note at the end about red, green and blue lights should be harmonize with signage standards for persons with low or no vision. 16.1 Application All signage and way finding relating to emergency egress shall be accessible and shall include text, visual, tactile and Braille characters. There are different types of signage that relate to emergency egress for various purposes: a. regulatory signs, which include information, including safety and emergency signs; b. mandatory signs which denote an order requiring an action; and c. warning signs such as caution and danger signs denote a potential hazard and a definite hazard. Note. All signs shall Conform and harmonize with signage standards for accessibility, usability and legibility including font style, size, color, and contrast and standards for alternate formats.
Why should we change it?
There is a standard that specifies font, size, font style, color, and contrast to ensure usability and legibility. This standard should be harmonized with the emergency egress standard.
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16.1 Application
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16.1
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1769042265313_87
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s16.2
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
16.2 Directional signage The following signs shall be posted indicating the accessible egress route: a. accessible egress path of travel to an exit, an area of refuge and a horizontal separation, if it is used as an area of refuge; and b. accessible egress path of travel to an occupant evacuation elevator. Emergency egress signage shall be identified by directional signage indicating the accessible egress path of travel to the final exit.
What should we change it to?
Clarify the different lettered phrases, and add, areas of shelter, muster, and waiting. 16.2 Directional signage The following signs shall be posted indicating the accessible egress route to : a. an exit, B. an area of refuge, waiting, shelter, or muster C. a horizontal separation, if it is used as an area of refuge , shelter, waiting, or mustard ; b. an occupant evacuation elevator. Emergency egress signage shall be identified by directional signage indicating the accessible egress path of travel to the final exit.
Why should we change it?
The sections with letters are two tightly condensed, and other areas besides refuge, such as waiting, shelter, and muster need to be identified.
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16.2 Directional signage
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16.2
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1769042321761_797
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s16.2
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
16.2 Directional signage Emergency egress directional signage shall be: a. posted at all decision points throughout the building; b. mounted with its centre between 1200 mm and 1500 mm from the finished floor; c. provided with legible, clear font not less than 16 pt; and d. available in alternative accessible formats, upon request.
What should we change it to?
Change and merge c. provided with legible, clear font not less than 16 pt; and d. available in alternative accessible formats, upon request. Emergency egress directional signage shall be: a. posted at all decision points throughout the building; b. mounted with its centre between 1200 mm and 1500 mm from the finished floor; C. All signs shall Conform and harmonize two standards for usability and legibility for font style, size, color, and contrast as well as standards for alternate formats.
Why should we change it?
All signage should be installed in formats that are suitable for persons with disabilities. There is a standard that describes font style, size, color, and contrast, and this must be harmonized with the emergency egress standard.
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16.2 Directional signage
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16.2
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1769043027916_157
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s16.2
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
16.2 Directional sign16.2 Directional signage Emergency egress directional signage shall be: a. posted at all decision points throughout the building; b. mounted with its centre between 1200 mm and 1500 mm from the finished floor; c. provided with legible, clear font not less than 16 pt; and d. available in alternative accessible formats, upon request. age
What should we change it to?
Add some lettered clauses to ensure these signs are are usable and legible at all times, including power outages Starting with E. in this standard. 16.2 Directional signage Emergency egress directional signage shall be: a. posted at all decision points throughout the building; b. mounted with its centre between 1200 mm and 1500 mm from the finished floor; c. provided with legible, clear font not less than 16 pt; and d. available in alternative accessible formats, upon request. E. be self illuminated, externally illuminated, or glow in the dark. Any power for illumination shall be from emergency backup generators. F. every directional sign shall also have identification Marker on it that shows the location of the sign, so that emergency personnel can easily locate a person who calls in needing assistance and references this identification marker. The identification marker shall also be in tactile and braille. G. directional signs shall be surrounded by tactile floor surface, large enough for a person with low or no vision to locate it, and small enough not to interfere with evacuation procedures. H. directional markers shall emit a sound loud enough for a person with a disability to locate it, but not loud enough to interfere with evacuation procedures.
Why should we change it?
Directional markers are the lifeline to safety, and so they should be easily found, by any person, and have enough information so that any person will know which direction to go in, and enable emergency personnel to locate a person needing assistance.
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16.2 Directional signage
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16.2
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1769043141218_567
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s16.3
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Editorial such as spelling, grammar, formatting and accessibility
What should we change?
The entire clause
What should we change it to?
Shorten the list.
Why should we change it?
It feels like a map with so many items would be more confusing than informative.
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16.3 Emergency evacuation map
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16.3
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1769043202675_303
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s16.3
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
be located in central locations of the building; incorporate a font size of no less than 14 point; o. be color contrasted; p. be available in alternate formats; q. when possible, avoid the use of red and green; and r. use official pictograms.
What should we change it to?
Conform and harmonize with signage standards for accessibility, usability and legibility including font style, size, color, and contrast and standards for alternate formats. For those persons with disabilities for whom a map is not suitable, list and have a contact person to explain and demonstrate, and practice, the necessary information that will lead to a successful emergency egress. . Use only approved ISO pictograms. Have a legend that explains in an accessible format what each pictogram is.
Why should we change it?
There are three parts to this suggestion. 1. Font style, size, color, and contrast must conformed and harmonize with the approved standard. 2. For those for whom maps are not accessible, an alternate person to explain must be available. 3. Pictograms can be mysterious, so only approved ones should be used, and even though they are approved, must be explained in a legend.
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16.3 Emergency evacuation map
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16.3
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1769043278403_545
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s16.4
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
16.4 Tactile maps Tactile maps of the posted emergency evacuation map should be provided at the building entrance. Where provided, tactile maps shall: a. be angled between 20° minimum and 30° maximum from the horizontal;b. c. d. have the bottom edge 900 mm minimum above the finished floor surface; E. have the key located at the bottom of the map and left justified; and F. have a recessed braille locator provided on the left-hand side to assist in locating the legend.
What should we change it to?
Add a clause G , ensuring that user feedback is incorporated into each revision, and continue this process until users are satisfied. G in the spirit of continuous improvement, as soon as possible, after the opening of the facility, survey the users of this tactile map on a regular basis and revise the map, consistent with suggestions, until users and the facility accessibility panel are satisfied..
Why should we change it?
A tactile map design must conform to a delicate balance between just the right amount of information, properly displayed, and too much information which could overload the user. Only the user can decide on this, and so it is necessary to Survey the user experience, and continuously changed the map until users are satisfied.
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16.4 Tactile maps
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16.4
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1769043332826_533
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s16.5.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
16.5.1 Enclosed stairway signage An enclosed stairway shall have a sign identifying the storey in raised characters and braille with a high luminance contrast to its background at each landing that provides access to a floor area.
What should we change it to?
Add additional items to facilitate emergency egress. 16.5.1 Enclosed stairway signage A. An enclosed stairway shall have a sign identifying the storey in raised characters and braille with a high luminance contrast to its background at each landing that provides access to a floor area. New text starts here The sign shall Conform and harmonize with signage standards for accessibility, usability and legibility including font style, size, colour, and contrast and standards for alternate formats. C. On those floors where there is exit, refuge, shelter, or waiting areas, this shall be marked on the door in formats that conform with the standard for accessibility. D. each sign shall have an identification marker in an accessible format that locates where the door is in a way that emergency personnel with this information could easily locate a person.
Why should we change it?
This suggestion covers the following reasons. 1. All signage must conform to an harmonize with the standards for accessibility, usability, and legibility. 2. In order to ensure a safe evacuation, the door must be marked with information about that particular floor as to whether it has a exit, refuge , muster or shelter area on it. 3. In large buildings, their are many doors, many floors, and many stairwells. If a person needs to be rescued from that particular door area, they must be able to locate and identify it in a unique way when communicating with emergency personnel.
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16.5.1 Enclosed stairway signage
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16.5.1
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1769043381780_876
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s16.5.2
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
16.5.2 Exit door signage An accessible exit door discharging to the exterior of a building or another building shall: a. have a sign with raised characters and braille; b. if discharging directly to the exterior, lead to an accessible exterior path of travel and the exterior muster point; and c. if discharging to another building, lead to a path of travel that complies with this Standard.
What should we change it to?
Add a sentence after clause, A clarifying the standards to be met 16.5.2 Exit door signage An accessible exit door discharging to the exterior of a building or another building shall: a. have a sign with raised characters and braille; New text starts here the sign shall Conform and harmonize with signage standards for accessibility, usability and legibility including font style, size, colour, and contrast and standards for alternate formats.
Why should we change it?
All signage must conform and harmonize with relevant standards .
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16.5.2 Exit door signage
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16.5.2
Submission ID
64585
Submitted by
VWilliams
Submitted on
Wed, 01/21/2026 - 20:16
Consent to contact
Yes

Individual 64585's submission

CAN-ASC-2.2 – Emergency Egress (Exit)
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1769024844989_514
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s6.2
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
As people with disabilities are increasingly demanding a say in their self-determination, they are no longer willing to wait for assistance, while others are evacuating a building. They wish to be provided with the same level of safety.
What should we change it to?
As people with disabilities are entitled to the same rights as people without those disabilities, they should not have to wait for assistance, while others are evacuating a building. They are entitled to the same level of safety as people without disabilities.
Why should we change it?
By itself, a demand or request without entitlement isn’t enough to set these standards. Recognizing entitlement is a straightforward and clear reason for them.
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6.2 Overview
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6.2
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1769025154058_839
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s7.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
The requirements of this Standard shall apply to all of the following:Split up letter B into individual sections for clarity. a. b. the design, construction and occupancy of all new buildings; the alteration, major renovation (as defined by the NBC), reconstruction, relocation and occupancy of all existing buildings, including leased facilities; c. both site-built and factory-constructed buildings; and d. buildings with single stairwells.
What should we change it to?
Add the words, or rented, after the word, leased. a. b. the design, construction and occupancy of all new buildings; C. the alteration, major renovation (as defined by the NBC), . reconstruction, D. relocation and F. occupancy of all existing buildings, including leased and rented facilities; G. both site-built and factory-constructed buildings; and H. buildings with single stairwells.
Why should we change it?
It is possible for a building to be rented, and so this option must be part of this standard. The possibilities of reconstruction, relocation, and occupancy should not be merged into a single clause, as they are distinctly different.
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7.1 Inclusions
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7.1
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1769025250809_506
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s7.3
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
The design requirements of this Standard apply to the design of new construction and major renovations, as defined by the NBC, for the federally regulated sector. This includes all major occupancy types, including multi-unit residential buildings and leased facilities. This edition of the standard does not address individual dwelling units.
What should we change it to?
Merge this clause with 7.1, or at least make them say the very same thing.
Why should we change it?
This would make the standard more focused, and consistent.
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7.3 Applications
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7.3
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1769025407640_24
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s7.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Add a section, 7.1.1. In section 10, there is a long list of possible emergencies. In the same way, we suggest that there should be a list of possible buildings, to ensure conformance with the standard.
What should we change it to?
Add this section :7.1.1 other inclusions This scope includes but are not limited too. Shopping centers Multi use buildings which have retail at the ground level, parking at levels 2, 3 or four, businesses at levels, 5, 6 and seven, and residential units above, or any combination. Sports stadiums Schools Parking garages Transit terminal, such as airports Hospitals and medical centers Venues for large gatherings, such as concert halls Structures that are close to flammable materials, such as a forest, or fuel storage. Factories Warehouses
Why should we change it?
Each of these building types, and there are probably others, require special attention to exit and egress methods for persons with disabilities in the case of an emergency.
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7.1 Inclusions
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7.1
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1769025600930_912
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s9.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Accessible egress path of travel — The accessible route that is used as the egress route from anywhere in the building to the accessible muster Terminology point. Accessible path of travel — The accessible route within the interior or exterior environment that is without barriers — Designated area within a building which has
What should we change it to?
Merge these two definitions, or create a note explaining the differences. Also 1. in the first definition, the word, terminology, does not seem to be correct. 2. The definition calls up the muster point. This should be expanded to, refuge, shelter, and waiting.
Why should we change it?
It is not clear what the difference is between these two terms
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9.1 Definitions
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9.1
Item id
1769025683138_234
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s9.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Add a definition for Individual dwelling units
What should we change it to?
Individual dwelling units are structures, such as a cottage, bungalow, semi detached, or town houses, residential only, each housing several people If the structure is a cottage, although it might be two or three stories, as long as it has related persons in it, this standard does not apply to it. If the structure is used largely as rental units for unrelated persons, such as a boarding house, or dormitory, then they are covered by this standard. If the structure is multistory, such as a duplex, triplex, or quadruplex, then it is covered by this standard as it is multi story. If a cottage or bungalow has been converted to a non-residential use, then it is covered by this standard.
Why should we change it?
The definition of individual dwelling unit needs clarification.
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9.1 Definitions
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9.1
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1769025732490_167
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s9.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Add a definition
What should we change it to?
Facility accessibility panel A panel of 3 to 7 persons, selected by the facility, emergency manager in cooperation and coordination with all persons with disabilities in the facility. Each person in this panel shall have a term of one year, and the panel will be re-selected every year by the facility, emergency manager in coordination and cooperation with all persons with disabilities in the facility
Why should we change it?
The mandate of accessibility standards Canada calls for, nothing about us, without us. In order to do this, the emergency management of a facility must have the input of persons with disabilities, and so an appropriate body must be formed and have the appropriate authority.
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9.1 Definitions
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9.1
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1769025810330_64
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s9.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
The definitions for, accessible, and, barrier free, each list a few specific disabilities. Given that these are listed in more detail in The definition of disability, there should either be a cross reference, or just the use of the word disability, and remove the three or four descriptive words.
What should we change it to?
In the definitions of accessible, and, barrier free, remove the three or four words that describe some disabilities.
Why should we change it?
This will add clarity to the definition, and harmonize the definitions with each other.
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9.1 Definitions
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9.1
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1769025870061_444
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s9.1
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Add a definition
What should we change it to?
What we should change it to. Facility emergency manager This person shall be appointed by the building owner, or should there be shared ownership, such as a condominium or cooperative, by the governing body, such as the board of directors They will have the mandate to plan for, execute, improve, and do continuous improvement on every aspect of emergencies, including PEEP and risk assessment and mitigation. This would include selecting, training, and ensuring availability of buddies and floor wardens.
Why should we change it?
There are several places in this standard, which include the selection of buddies, training, inspections, and ongoing operations, which call upon a property owner or building Manager. There are possibilities that neither of these two positions exist, have the appropriate authority, or training to be involved in such an important manner as the management of emergencies. Wherever the words, building manager or property owner are in this standard, the facilities emergency manager position is to be understood or, for consistency and harmonization, use only the words, emergency facility manager.
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9.1 Definitions
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9.1
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1769025924562_202
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s9.1
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Add a definition
What should we change it to?
The phrase, fire compartment, is used once or twice in this standard, but not defined. I do not have the technical expertise to define it, but either do this, or change it to a more familiar term.
Why should we change it?
This is an important term, and so to be consistent and harmonized, it should be defined or replaced.
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9.1 Definitions
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9.1
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1769026531769_197
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s9
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10. Emergency egress for people with disabilities The National Fire Code (NFC) and the Provincial Fire Codes require that all buildings have a fire safety plan that includes information on emergency egress for all occupants, including people with disabilities. The ability of a person with a disability to safely evacuate a building is dependent upon the appropriate design of the building and the development and implementation of emergency procedures and practices that accommodate all building occupants.
What should we change it to?
Split up this section for clarity. Note. Some section renumbering might be necessary. 10. Emergency egress , training, and inspection 10.1 inspection As the NFC) and the Provincial Fire Codes require that all buildings have a fire safety plan that includes information on emergency and egress for all occupants, including people with disabilities. The ability of a person with a disability to safely evacuate a building is dependent upon the appropriate design of the building and the development and implementation of emergency procedures and practices that accommodate all building occupants. A. the facility, emergency manager, with the facility, accessibility panel, shall ensure that all personal emergency evacuation plans, conform with the NFB and provincial codes B. whenever an inspector from a fire department or other building code inspector does and inspection, they shall ensure that all Communication systems, egress routes, mustard, points, shelters, refuge and other structures that enable a person with a disability to evacuate safely or other items included in this Standard are in place and operate correctly. C. The facility accessibility panel Will participate in all inspections. .. This inspection shall take place no less than every 12 months, and if there are more than 200 occupants, twice per year. D. any part of the inspection that is shown as not in place or not operating correctly, either by the building code inspector, or fire department inspector, or by the facility accessibility panel , shall be treated by the fire department inspector or building code inspector with the same seriousness as a violation of their code , with the same due process. All documentation and due process concerning violations shall be copied to the facility accessibility panel. 10.2 Training A. a training program on the subject of this standard shall be developed by accessibility standards Canada within one year of the final standard being approved. B. The training program shall be mandatory for the facility, accessibility panel, facility, emergency manager, , emergency coordinator, buddies,officials and inspectors to attend this course as part of their orientation and on boarding, and have a refresher whenever a major part of the standard is changed. C. should a particular building have a violation found by the fire department inspector or building "inspector, then a training memorandum will be sent out to all the above concerned, persons with procedures to assure the violation does not occur again.
Why should we change it?
In order for a standard to be effective, it is vital that everyone concerned, knows what that standard is, and so a training program is necessary to ensure an even spread of knowledge. In addition, enforcement of a standard is necessary, otherwise, there are possibilities that it will not be used, and this might lead to tragic consequences.
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10. Emergency egress for people with disabilities
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10.
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1769029239414_842
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s10
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Editorial such as spelling, grammar, formatting and accessibility
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I feel this section is too long, and should be split up into sections 12, 13, etc., and the subsequent sections re-numbered What we should change it to. The sections would include.
What should we change it to?
Planning from the fire department Roles and responsibilities Personal emergency evacuation plan Before during and after an emergency And others.
Why should we change it?
These topics are too important to be smershed into one section. In addition, other standards, I have worked on have separate sections for roles and responsibilities, so then this standard would be harmonized with other standards What kind of suggestion are you making? General Section Number
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11. Practices and procedures
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11.
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1769029463870_129
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heading-39
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
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The role of the emergency wardens Emergency wardens are individuals who are responsible for the safety of the people in their building or on their designated floors. The emergency wardens shall do the following:
What should we change it to?
Use the role of the facility, emergency manager, instead of floor warden.The role of the emergency wardens Emergency wardens are individuals who are responsible for the safety of the people in their building or on their designated floors.They work under the authority of the facility, emergency manager. In some cases, the facility emergency manager might also be the emergency warden. New text ends here The emergency wardens shall do the following:
Why should we change it?
In order to have consistency across the standard for roles and responsibilities, as well as authority, there must be harmonization between the terms used for the same function, but with different names. The names that are to be harmonized are. Facility emergency manager Building owner Property Manager Emergency warden or floor or fire warden Health and safety officer
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11.2.1.1 The role of the emergency wardens
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11.2.1.1
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1769029589968_169
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heading-41
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
The role of the person with a disability Some information on emergency egress issues that relate to individuals with various disabilities is provided in Annex A (https://accessible.canada.ca/creating-accessibility-standards/can-asc-22-emergency-egress-exit/18-annex-emergency-egress-issues-persons- disabilities). A person with a disability shall: a. develop a PEEP in conjunction with the emergency warden and buddies; b. ensure that emergency wardens and buddies know and understand their personal situation and how to best assist; c. describe their preferences as to lifting or transferring; d. describe any areas of concern such as loud noises, the use of assistive devices, areas of pain, etc.; e. know the location of the accessible egress routes and the areas of refuge; f. know how to use an evacuation device, if applicable; and g. be aware of the location of the muster points.
What should we change it to?
Add the following at the letter H. H. Be available for nomination to the facility, accessibility panel, and if chosen, ensure that all standards are met I. know who are the members of the facility, accessibility panel and facility, emergency manager and report to them any concerns about emergency egress, procedures, or conformity to standards J. As part of on boarding and orientation , with the appointed buddy, ensure you know the paths of egress, refuge, muster, shelter, points, and method of communication, and Test, the method of communication. K. if you are a visitor, ensure the facility emergency manager is aware that you are in the facility, has a copy of your PEEP, and with a buddy, review the appropriate emergency egress procedures
Why should we change it?
The more that a person with a disability can participate and have knowledge of the emergency egress procedures, the more likely it is that they will be able to safely. Exit the facility in the case of an emergency.
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11.2.1.3 The role of the person with a disability
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11.2.1.3
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1769029701838_12
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heading-42
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
The role of the buddy The buddy shall do the following: a. Assist in notifying the person with a disability of an emergency. b. Know how to use an evacuation device, if applicable. c. Participate in the development of the PEEP. d. Be aware of the location of the accessible egress route and area of refuge. e. Know the appropriate way to communicate with and assist the person with a disability and discuss their PEEP. f. Be aware of the locations of the person with a disability that they are going to accompany. g. Be aware of the location of the muster points. h. Participate in fire drills with the person with the disability.
What should we change it to?
Add the following starting with letter I . I. as part of on boarding and orientation, practice the egress roots, muster, shelter, and refuse points, and test the method of communication with the person with a disability. J. If there are any parts of the standard that are not met , communicate immediately with the facility, emergency manager and the facility accessibility panel. K. If you are assigned to a visitor, ensure that you know, the PEEP, and, if applicable, practice the egress method, shelter, muster, and refuse points, and test the method of communication.
Why should we change it?
Practice makes perfect, and the steps necessary for a person with a disability to exit safely are more likely to succeed if a practice session has been done, and remediation for those concerns that are still evident.
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11.2.1.4 The role of the buddy
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11.2.1.4
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1769029826624_825
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s11.4.3
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
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Evaluation and improvement After an emergency situation has taken place, an in-depth review shall be conducted on the effectiveness of the procedures that were developed and implemented. All drills and emergencies shall be documented to facilitate improvement. Potential improvements should be discussed frequently and openly. This discussion shall: a. be completed within 2 weeks of the emergency egress in a written format and an alternative format that is
What should we change it to?
After the words, Potential improvements should be discussed frequently and openly, Add another sentence. 11.4.3 Post-emergency: Evaluation and improvement After an emergency situation has taken place, an in-depth review shall be conducted on the effectiveness of the procedures that were developed and implemented. All drills and emergencies shall be documented to facilitate improvement. Potential improvements should be discussed frequently and openly. If the in-depth review shows areas of concern that are life-threatening, these should be reported to the fire department inspector, or building code inspector, and be treated as serious violations with the due process of the inspection agency. These serious violations shall be reported to the facility, emergency manager and the facility accessibility panel.
Why should we change it?
Any life-threatening concern should be treated with the appropriate seriousness of the situation, and the authorities with the mandate to remedy the situation and enforce any improvements must be part of the process.
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11.4.3 Post-emergency: Evaluation and improvement
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11.4.3
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1769030340629_822
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heading-41
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
11.2.1.3 The role of the person with a disability .
What should we change it to?
Change the title of the section by enlarging it to those who need assistance 11.2.1.3 The role of the person with a disability or who requires assistance that impacts emergency egress.
Why should we change it?
The title of this section should conform with the definition of a person who must complete a PEEP. and highlight that there are other persons than those with disabilities, such as seniors, or persons with children, that might also need assistance.
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11.2.1.3 The role of the person with a disability
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11.2.1.3
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1769030439701_839
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s11.3.2
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
11.3.2 Employee Personal Emergency Evacuation Plans
What should we change it to?
Change the title to include all those who are not visitors 11.3.2 occupant, residence, and full and part time Employee Personal Emergency Evacuation Plans
Why should we change it?
Parts of this draft standard focus on office buildings and office employees, but there are many other kinds of buildings that have other kinds of occupants. In order to be inclusive, there must be a more functional definition so that , all those who are present a major part of time must be part of this section. For information, here is the definition of visitor. occupants of a building who are not present on a regular, known and consistent basis. This could include patrons, employees in a hybrid or co-working workplace who work in an office space on an irregular basis, or employees in activity-based workplaces. This wording of employee should be changed wherever it occurs.
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11.3.2 Employee Personal Emergency Evacuation Plans
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11.3.2
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1769030535061_571
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heading-41
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
11.2.1.3 The role of the person with a disability Some information on emergency egress issues that relate to individuals with various disabilities is provided in Annex A (https://accessible.canada.ca/creating-accessibility-standards/can-asc-22-emergency-egress-exit/18-annex-emergency-egress-issues-persons- disabilities). A person with a disability shall: a. develop a PEEP in conjunction with the emergency warden and buddies; b. ensure that emergency wardens and buddies know and understand their personal situation and how to best assist; c. describe their preferences as to lifting or transferring; d. describe any areas of concern such as loud noises, the use of assistive devices, areas of pain, etc.; e. know the location of the accessible egress routes and the areas of refuge;f. know how to use an evacuation device, if applicable; and g. be aware of the location of the muster points.
What should we change it to?
Add a clause, H, at the end about risk mitigation 11.2.1.3 The role of the person with a disability Some information on emergency egress issues that relate to individuals with various disabilities is provided in Annex A (https://accessible.canada.ca/creating-accessibility-standards/can-asc-22-emergency-egress-exit/18-annex-emergency-egress-issues-persons- disabilities). A person with a disability shall: a. develop a PEEP in conjunction with the emergency warden and buddies; b. ensure that emergency wardens and buddies know and understand their personal situation and how to best assist; c. describe their preferences as to lifting or transferring; d. describe any areas of concern such as loud noises, the use of assistive devices, areas of pain, etc.; e. know the location of the accessible egress routes and the areas of refuge;f. know how to use an evacuation device, if applicable; and g. be aware of the location of the muster points. New text starts here H. Discuss the risk profile of the facility with the facility, emergency manager, which may include age of the building, combustible materials in the building, sprinklers or not, which building codes are older, grandfathered, and not up-to-date, code violations, received from the fire department or other authorities, proximity to other dangers, and anything else the facility manager may be aware of. If appropriate, discuss reducing the risk by changing the location of the work, occupation, or residence , by increasing the proximity to refuge, shelter, waiting, exit doors, elevators, stairs, egress pads, or selecting other facilities.
Why should we change it?
There might be a particular combination of risks in a facility, as well as a combination of difficulties in emergency egress in a particular person, that would point to other kinds of risk, mitigation than buddies or evacuation plans. one way to do this is to change the location of the person with a disability physical location to one more favorable to egress during an emergency situation.
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11.2.1.3 The role of the person with a disability
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11.2.1.3
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1769030692215_818
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s12.1.1
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
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Buildings shall be provided with areas of refuge on levels above and below the level served by an immediate accessible exit and egress path of travel leading directly outside
What should we change it to?
Add a sentence describing what happens if it is a one story building, such as a factory, warehouse, or logistics hub. Also, expand refuge area, too, muster , shelter, or waiting areas. 12.1.1 Application Buildings shall be provided with areas of refuge, muster, shelter, and waiting areas on levels above and below the level served by an immediate accessible exit and egress path of travel leading directly outside. In the case of one story buildings, the areas of refuge, muster, shelter, and waiting shall be located in such a way that they are safe from the situation of the emergency, and close to the path of egress.
Why should we change it?
In general, this standard is written from the perspective of multi story, office buildings, however, there a many kinds of buildings, including residences, one story, industrial buildings, such as factories, warehouses, and logistic hubs. The standard must have the appropriate language to accommodate these situations.
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12.1.1 Application
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12.1.1
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1769030780470_230
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heading-61
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
The number of areas of refuge on each storey shall be provided based on half the number of exits required by the applicable building code serving that storey. Note: Decimal numbers should be rounded up to the nearest whole number. Other considerations: a. the building use; and b. the anticipated number of visitors.
What should we change it to?
Add conditions at the end, indicating that the number of persons occupying or employed in the building shall be part of the consideration of number of refuge areas. 12.1.1.1 Number of areas of refuge The number of areas of refuge on each storey shall be provided based on half the number of exits required by the applicable building code serving that storey. Note: Decimal numbers should be rounded up to the nearest whole number. Other considerations: a. the building use; and b. the anticipated number of visitors. New text starts here C. Number of persons occupying or employed in the facility D. the proportion of staff available to eat in evacuation, such as buddies, compared to the number of persons employed in or occupying the building.
Why should we change it?
. One would imagine that the building code would include clauses about a, and B, at the end of this clause, and perhaps also the addition we are making, about number of occupants and amount of assistance available. However, given that conditions, a, and B, were included, this would indicate that these conditions are not in the building code, and so we feel that other conditions must be added. Condition D is very important in the case of shopping centers, sports stadiums, factories with a high density of employees, condominiums, where the number of staff or buddies are low compared to the actual number of people in the facility. In these cases, Moore, areas of refuge must be available to make up for the small amount of assistance available. Note. The same analysis should be applied to muster, shelter, waiting, or any other areas where persons might congregate in the event of an emergency.
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12.1.1.1 Number of areas of refuge
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12.1.1.1
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1769030908022_650
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s12.1.2
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
Note: An example of a fire compartment in this Clause includes an elevator lobby.
What should we change it to?
Add specifications after the words,includes an elevator lobby Note: An example of a fire compartment in this Clause includes an elevator lobby, New text starts here only if the elevator lobby is protected from the emergency situation, such as fire, and compliant with clause 12.1.3 It will be marked in the same way as refuge area in a prominent way.
Why should we change it?
A description of an elevator lobby, as a place of refuge is too vague, and may result in persons with disabilities gathering in front of an elevator door, but not be protected from the emergency situation. Clarification must be given to this note so that if this particular space is a place of refuge, then it must comply with the standards for this type of space. Note. The words, fire compartment, are used in this note, and have not been previously used or defined.
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12.1.2 Location of the areas of refuge
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12.1.2
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1769031001934_624
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s12.1.3
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
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12.1.3 General Areas of refuge shall be: a. located on an accessible route; b. smoke-protected; c. illuminated at a minimum of 200 lux; and d. provided with an evacuation device nearby.
What should we change it to?
Add other conditions to make it more survivable as a place of refuge starting with letter E. 12.1.3 General Areas of refuge shall be: a. located on an accessible route; b. smoke-protected; c. illuminated at a minimum of 200 lux; and d. provided with an evacuation device nearby New text starts here E. Full range of communication systems backed up by fire resistant and emergency power f. have separate emergency lighting and ventilation systems supported by a backup generator.
Why should we change it?
A place of refuge is a place where one could survive a situation. Emergency for enough time until assistance is available to leave the building. This could easily be 10, 15, or 20 minutes, and so there must be enough protection, plus reliable communications, to enable survival.
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12.1.3 General
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12.1.3
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1769031080232_908
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s12.1.4
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
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12.1.4 Doors serving an area of refuge A door serving an immediate area of refuge shall: a. b. be leakage-rated complying with NFPA 105; have a clear width complying with CSA/ASC B651; c. be equipped with a power door operator capable of being activated in the event of a loss of power via emergency power or alternative power
What should we change it to?
In C Add a phrase after the words, alternate power so that a door can be manually operated. 12.1.4 Doors serving an area of refuge A door serving an immediate area of refuge shall: a. b. be leakage-rated complying with NFPA 105; have a clear width complying with CSA/ASC B651; c. be equipped with a power door operator capable of being activated in the event of a loss of power via emergency power or alternative power New text starts here or manually.
Why should we change it?
Many emergency situations result in loss of power, either because of the emergency itself, or power being cut off from the entire facility as a measure of caution. For these reasons, it is necessary to have the door being operated manually, so that no one is trapped inside.
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12.1.4 Doors serving an area of refuge
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12.1.4
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1769031174110_477
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s12.1.5
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
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12.1.5 Interior of areas of refuge The interior of an area of refuge shall: a. provide a minimum of two waiting spaces to accommodate a clear unobstructed floor space not less than 900 mm by 1500 mm for each space; b. be served by a 2100 mm turning radius; c. be located clear of any adjacent door swing; d. be illuminated, minimum 200 lux; e. be connected to the backup power; and f. be free of protrusions.
What should we change it to?
Add letter G , indicating that the size of this area should be calculated according to the appropriate code or the number of people that might use it. 12.1.5 Interior of areas of refuge The interior of an area of refuge shall: a. provide a minimum of two waiting spaces to accommodate a clear unobstructed floor space not less than 900 mm by 1500 mm for each space; b. be served by a 2100 mm turning radius; c. be located clear of any adjacent door swing; d. be illuminated, minimum 200 lux; e. be connected to the backup power; and f. be free of protrusions. New text starts here G. have a size calculated according to the appropriate fire or building code or number of people who might use it.
Why should we change it?
This clause is for the minimum size of a refuge area, and a quick reading of it might indicate that a space for two persons is adequate. It is necessary to indicate that the space might be larger than for two persons, and that the appropriate code is followed
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12.1.5 Interior of areas of refuge
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12.1.5
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1769031327368_584
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s12.1.6
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
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12.1.6 Clear waiting space The clear waiting space shall: a. be connected to the accessible path of travel; b. be recessed away from the common path of travel; c. be positioned to avoid someone being directly in front of or behind another individual; d. be clearly delineated along the floor; e. not be located directly facing the stairs or behind the exit door; and f. have separate emergency lighting and ventilation systems supported by a backup generator.
What should we change it to?
Add letter G and H G. be safe and used in those cases where the person's exiting the facility need to pause , for any reason, between their original spot, for a short period of time on their path to egress the emergency situation. H. Have complete access to all communication, facilities, backed up by emergency power
Why should we change it?
Specifications must be added to the waiting area to ensure they are survivable while they are being used
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12.1.6 Clear waiting space
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12.1.6
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1769033950214_342
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s12.1.8
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
12.1.8 Signage An area of refuge shall have an identification sign on the door stating the type of area with the International Pictogram of Access. An additional sign shall be posted on the side of the door or appropriate place,, complying with CSA/ASC B651.12.1.8.1
What should we change it to?
Harmonize this signage standard to all areas, not just refuge. Add requirements that sign must have location information. 12.1.8 Signage An area of refuge, shelter, muster point, or waiting area shall have an identification sign on the door or appropriate place stating the AREA with the International Pictogram of Access. An additional sign shall be posted on the side of the door, or appropriate place complying with CSA/ASC B651.12.1.8.1 New text starts here All of these signs will have information on them, which gives the location in a way that emergency personnel can easily locate them. All signage will Conform and harmonize with signage standards for accessibility, usability and legibility including font style, size, color, and contrast and standards for alternate formats.
Why should we change it?
The standard for signage should be harmonized throughout all areas where persons might congregate while waiting for evacuation. In a large facility, and during an emergency, it is easy to lose track of location. For this reason, every refuge room shelter, waiting area, muster point , , and waiting area, shall have signage that indicates the location in a way that enables emergency personnel to easily know the location of the person in the shelter, refuge, muster, or waiting area.
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12.1.8 Signage
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12.1.8
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1769034003246_665
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s12.1.8
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
An area of refuge shall have an identification sign on the door stating AREA OF REFUGE with the International Pictogram of Access. An additional sign shall be posted on the side of the door, complying with CSA/ASC B651.12.1.8.1 Directional signage Directional signage Emergency egress directional signage to the area of refuge shall be provided at decision points throughout the building
What should we change it to?
Add a line after the description of directional signage. 12.1.8 Signage An area of refuge shall have an identification sign on the door stating AREA OF REFUGE with the International Pictogram of Access. An additional sign shall be posted on the side of the door, complying with CSA/ASC B651.12.1.8.1 Every Directional signage Emergency egress directional signage to the area of refuge shall be provided at decision points throughout the building. New text starts here directional sign at every decision point shall have an additional identification that identifies the location of the decision point in a way that makes it easy for emergency personnel to know the location of whoever is referencing that particular decision point. Each directional sign shall be self luminous. This location identification shall also be in braille and large print
Why should we change it?
In a large facility, and during an emergency, it is easy to lose track of location. For this reason, every directional sign at every decision point , shall have marking that indicates the location in a way that enables emergency personnel to easily know the location of the person in at the directional sign or decision point..
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12.1.8 Signage
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12.1.8
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1769034112646_858
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s12.2.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Editorial such as spelling, grammar, formatting and accessibility
What should we change?
Doors and power doors are listed in several sections of the standard, but there seems to be inconsistencies in what happens during an emergency. Some sections called for power back up, some call for connection to emergency back up or generator,. . None handle the possibility of a complete power or power back up failure.
What should we change it to?
The standard should be made consistent, especially being able to open the door manually, when all else fails.
Why should we change it?
It is important for a standard to be consistent, and the description in this draft standard around door operation in a emergency seem to be less than consistent. 5. What kind of suggestion are you making?
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12.2.1 Power door operators on horizontal exit doors
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12.2.1
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1769034218262_320
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s12.3.1
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12.3.1 Interior egress path of travel The interior egress path of travel shall comply with CSA/ASC-B651. Static escalators, stair lifts and moving walks shall not be permitted as part of the interior egress path of travel. All elements in the interior egress path of travel shall be accessible, including: a. to and from all floor areas of a building; and b. to and from all interior doors to exterior exit doors. In addition, the interior egress path of travel shall: a. where there is a rise over 13 mm, have a slope of no steeper than 1:25. See Ramps 12.7; b. be free of protrusions to a height of 2100 mm; c. be illuminated to a minimum level of 200 lux; andd. be free of overly patterned carpeting.
What should we change it to?
Add extra conditions starting with D. 12.3.1 Interior egress path of travel The interior egress path of travel shall comply with CSA/ASC-B651. Static escalators, stair lifts and moving walks shall not be permitted as part of the interior egress path of travel. All elements in the interior egress path of travel shall be accessible, including: a. to and from all floor areas of a building; and b. to and from all interior doors to exterior exit doors. In addition, the interior egress path of travel shall: a. where there is a rise over 13 mm, have a slope of no steeper than 1:25. See Ramps 12.7; b. be free of protrusions to a height of 2100 mm; c. be illuminated to a minimum level of 200 lux; andd. be free of overly patterned carpeting. New text starts here D. Have lighting connected to emergency back up power, which will also light up directional signs at every decision point. E. Where possible, egress paths will have illuminated, or self luminous directional markings on the floor. F. Signage identifying the egress pads shall be identified on the emergency fire safety map posted throughout the building.
Why should we change it?
In an emergency, often power is disrupted, or disconnected by emergency personnel. In such a case, the interior of the building can become quite dark, and so it is necessary to have emergency back up power on all egress paths as well as directional signs.
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12.3.1 Interior egress path of travel
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12.3.1
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1769034303933_38
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s12.4
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12.4 Muster points All buildings shall have muster points served by an accessible exterior egress path of travel. The muster point shall be a minimum of 3000 mm x 3000 mm. Signage with the muster point symbol shall be provided between 1600 mm and 2500 mm above the ground surface. Signage identifying the muster points shall be identified on the emergency fire safety map posted throughout the building. Benches or seating provided for the muster point shall comply with CSA/ASC B651. The muster point shall: a. be provided with a rest area equipped with a bench or seating alternative; b. have a pavement marking not less than 1 m by 1 m identifying the international symbol of muster points, where located on a hard surface; c. be illuminated; and d. be recessed away from and served by an exterior egress path of travel complying with Clause 12.3.2.
What should we change it to?
Add conditions starting with letter E. , 12.4 Muster points All buildings shall have muster points served by an accessible exterior egress path of travel. The muster point shall be a minimum of 3000 mm x 3000 mm. Signage with the muster point symbol shall be provided between 1600 mm and 2500 mm above the ground surface. Signage identifying the muster points shall be identified on the emergency fire safety map posted throughout the building. Benches or seating provided for the muster point shall comply with CSA/ASC B651. The muster point shall: a. be provided with a rest area equipped with a bench or seating alternative; b. have a pavement marking not less than 1 m by 1 m identifying the international symbol of muster points, where located on a hard surface; c. be illuminated; and d. be recessed away from and served by an exterior egress path of travel complying with Clause 12.3.2. New text starts here E. have a size that is calculated with information about the use of the building, the size of the building, number of occupants or visitors, distance from the egress door, factors that might make the speed to get out of the building important, availability and numbers of of buddies or staff members to aid in persons with disabilities. F. be connected with all communication facilities, which will be backed up by battery or emergency generators. H. Be connected to emergency ventilation systems
Why should we change it?
The purpose of a muster point is to allow accumulation and survival of persons until assistance arrives. The size of this muster point is dependent on many factors , and these must be part of the standard.
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12.4 Muster points
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12.4
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1769034382837_938
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s12.6.1
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12.6.1 Tactile information on stair and ramp handrails Stair and ramp handrails shall have raised characters with braille permanently fixed on the underside of the horizontal section, at the beginning and at the end of every handrail on stairs indicating: a. the floor number; b. the direction of egress; and c. the exit floor shall be indicated by a tactile star.
What should we change it to?
Add a phrase, D, that the signage on the underside should also indicate the location of the stairwell. 12.6.1 Tactile information on stair and ramp handrails Stair and ramp handrails shall have raised characters with braille permanently fixed on the underside of the horizontal section, at the beginning and at the end of every handrail on stairs indicating: a. the floor number; b. the direction of egress; and c. the exit floor shall be indicated by a tactile star. New text starts here D. the location of the stairwell Will be marked in such a way that emergency personnel can easily identify the exact location of that particular railing.
Why should we change it?
An emergency often causes a person to not know exactly where they are. In order for emergency personnel to be able to locate and aid in the egress of any person, they must know exactly the location of a person, should that person need to be rescued from that location. For that reason, just knowing the floor number on a stairwell is not sufficient. It is necessary to know exactly which stairwell, which building, between which floors, which landing, so that exact location is known.
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12.6.1 Tactile information on stair and ramp handrails
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12.6.1
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1769034479380_367
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s11
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Editorial such as spelling, grammar, formatting and accessibility
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Harmonize the specifications and conditions for refuge, muster, shelter, waiting, and fire compartment areas
What should we change it to?
Harmonize the condition, such as lighting, emergency power, signage, Communications, and size
Why should we change it?
The areas listed are all a place where persons with disabilities might congregate during an emergency, waiting for evacuation. It is my feeling that these specifications and conditions are not harmonized, and an effort should be made to do so.
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12. Built environment
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12.
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1769034601388_882
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s12.1.7
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12.1.7 Areas of refuge communication A communication system shall: a. be provided in each area of refuge; b. c. be equipped with a hands-free two-way communication system that is at a maximum height of 1200 mm; provide feedback to occupants acknowledging receipt of their communication (similar to an elevator); d. be adjacent to a clear space of 900 x 1500 mm; e. be connected to backup power; f. g. be connected to an emergency response system; have a two-way texting system complying with International Telecommunications Union (ITU) V.18, “Operational and interworking requirements for DCEs operating in the text telephone mode,” to support people who are Deaf, deafblind or hard of hearing; and h. be linked to security or emergency call centre. A communication system should be equipped with a volume control device
What should we change it to?
Add one more condition, letter I. I. all communication systems that a person with a disability might use will be available, resilient, and fire resistant in this and all areas used in emergency situations.
Why should we change it?
Persons with disabilities use many communication systems, the most popular one is the smart phone connected to Wi-Fi or mobile cellular systems. The communication system used inside a facility must be compatible with, and fire resistant, so that communication can be maintained.
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12.1.7 Areas of refuge communication
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12.1.7
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1769034879375_83
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s13.1.1
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A single-stage system is designed so that, when activated, the alarm signal shall be immediately transmitted throughout the building to warn the occupants that an emergency exists.
What should we change it to?
Add more description at the end of this item to make it more clear to a person with a disability through the appropriate communication channels, and updates until all clear signals are given 13.1.1 Single-stage system A single-stage system is designed so that, when activated, the alarm signal shall be immediately transmitted throughout the building to warn the occupants that an emergency exists. New text starts here The alarm signal that is transmitted will use Barrier free communication systems that are compatible with the needs of persons with disabilities. Because there is no action necessary when this signal is transmitted, a subsequent, all clear, signal will be transmitted to indicate that the emergency has been resolved. To ensure that the system is failsafe, if a period of more than three minutes passes before the, all clear, signal is transmitted, another signal, indicating that the emergency is still pending, but not resolved, will be transmitted every three minutes. If possible, when the, pending signal is transmitted, a description of the emergency, location, seriousness, action, being taken, would also be helpful.
Why should we change it?
To a person with a disability, receiving a signal that indicates an emergency is ongoing causes enormous stress, and anxiety. It might also cause them to put themselves in danger by trying to protect themselves, perhaps moving to another location, calling a buddy or other assistance, person, putting on protective clothing, or while trying to activate their personal communication device, make it inoperable. For this reason, when an emergency alarm is activated, there must be the knowledge that the process will keep every person up-to-date, on a regular and frequent basis, as well as declare and all clear. Can we clarify in a Single stage System how a notification of an evacuation is handled. What kind of suggestion are you making?
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13.1.1 Single-stage system
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13.1.1
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1769034983925_723
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s13.1.2
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In a two-stage alarm system, a distinct alert signal shall first advise of the emergency. Note: A two-stage system is used in facilities where the immediate evacuation of the occupants is neither desired nor practical. The second notification in the two-stage alarm system will advise occupants on how to proceed. C-section 13 point XX Both single stage and two stage systems cause the fire alarm panel to send signals to the fire department or monitoring station (fire alarm receiving centre or 9-1-1 Centre). Alarm signals to evacuate occupants do not sound. Notification is via a voice announcement. Technical requirements for fire alarm systems are provided in the NFC.
What should we change it to?
Add a paragraph at the end. The alarm signal that is transmitted will use Barrier free communication systems that are compatible with the needs of persons with disabilities. Because there is no action necessary when parts of this signal is transmitted, a , all clear, signal will be transmitted to indicate that the emergency has been resolved. To ensure that the system is failsafe, if a period of more than three minutes passes before the, all clear, signal is transmitted, another signal, indicating that the emergency is still pending, but not resolved, will be transmitted every three minutes. If possible, when the, pending signal is transmitted, a description of the emergency, seriousness, action, being taken, would also be helpful. If there are any Voice announcements, there will be a identical transmission of this message in a barrier freeway that works for the communication systems used by persons with disabilities.
Why should we change it?
An emergency signal causes stress and anxiety for persons with disability. For this reason, all signals must be clear, and updates and all clear signals must be part of the process.
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13.1.2 Two-stage system
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13.1.2
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1769035041854_181
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s13.1.2
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13.1.2 Two-stage system In a two-stage alarm system, a distinct alert signal shall first advise of the emergency. Note: A two-stage system is used in facilities where the immediate evacuation of the occupants is neither desired nor practical. The second notification in the two-stage alarm system will advise occupants on how to proceed. Both single stage and two stage systems cause the fire alarm panel to send signals to the fire department or monitoring station (fire alarm receiving centre or 9-1-1 Centre). Alarm signals to evacuate occupants do not sound. Notification is via a voice announcement.
What should we change it to?
There are a few statements in this section that should be clarified. 1. Note: A two-stage system is used in facilities where the immediate evacuation of the occupants is neither desired nor practical. Can you give some examples? Prisons? Hospitals? This signal is not when there is an immediate need for an evacuation, but how long might it take before that need becomes necessary. 2. Alarm signals to evacuate occupants do not sound. Notification is via a voice announcement. If notification is given using voice, what about persons who are deaf, or DEF Blind. 3. Like the single stage system, there must be communication while the emergency is pending as updates, on a frequent basis, as well as an all clear signal. 4. Clarify that the, how to proceed, signal, might be a signal to evacuate, although this is neither immediate, planned nor desirable
Why should we change it?
This section is somewhat less than clear, and needs to be clarified.
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13.1.2 Two-stage system
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13.1.2
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1769035112948_330
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s13.1.3
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Add a line at the end of both section
What should we change it to?
Add this line at the end of each of these two sections. The visible strobe signal in the event of a fire, shall also be accompanied by a communication Barrier free systems that use communication systems used by persons with disabilities.. C-section 13 point XX.
Why should we change it?
A visible stroke signal will not work for persons with certain disabilities, in particular those with impaired vision or no vision. In addition, certain neurodivergent conditions might be triggered by an intense strobe light.
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13.1.3 Where a fire alarm system is provided
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13.1.3
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1769035195693_470
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heading-90
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13.1.4.1 Emergency communication formats Building managers shall ensure communication systems that can alert all building occupants are in place in the event of an emergency. Note 1: Clear and efficient communication with everyone, including regular occupants and visitors, will enhance the safety of all building users during an emergency. All building occupants shall: a. b. receive emergency egress information in the format of their choice; and discuss format choices during the preparation of an individual’s personal emergency egress plan. Some building occupants may need information in various formats, including: a. large print; b. electronic messaging; c. speech synthesizers; d. an electronic pager; or e. sign language interpretation.
What should we change it to?
Add letter F 13.1.4.1 Emergency communication formats Building managers shall ensure communication systems that can alert all building occupants are in place in the event of an emergency. Note 1: Clear and efficient communication with everyone, including regular occupants and visitors, will enhance the safety of all building users during an emergency. All building occupants shall: a. b. receive emergency egress information in the format of their choice; and Receive egress information in the format selected during the preparation of an individual’s personal emergency egress plan. Some building occupants may need information in various formats, including: a. large print; b. electronic messaging; c. speech synthesizers; d. an electronic pager; or e. sign language interpretation. New text starts here F. ensure barrier free communication systems backed up by emergency power or generators are available that are compatible with all communication systems used by persons with disabilities
Why should we change it?
During an emergency, Communications are absolutely vital to ensure efficient egress and survival. The communication systems used by persons with disabilities, in various format, must be connected with the communication, alarm and notification systems in the building.
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13.1.4.1 Emergency communication formats
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13.1.4.1
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1769035258541_642
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heading-90
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Building managers shall ensure communication systems that can alert all building occupants are in place in the event of an emergency. Note 1: Clear and efficient communication with everyone, including regular occupants and visitors, will enhance the safety of all building users during an emergency. All building occupants shall: a. b. receive emergency egress information in the format of their choice; and discuss format choices during the preparation of an individual’s personal emergency egress plan. Some building occupants may need information in various formats, including: a. large print; b. electronic messaging; c. speech synthesizers; d. an electronic pager; or e. sign language interpretation.
What should we change it to?
Replace the following phrase. Some building occupants may need information in various formats, including: a. large print; b. electronic messaging; c. speech synthesizers; d. an electronic pager; or e. sign language interpretation. And replace with Some building occupants may need information in a format identified in the personal emergency evacuation plan, or any other Barrier free format that works with communication systems used by persons with disabilities.
Why should we change it?
The technology that persons with disabilities use is changing rapidly. Some of those listed here, such as electronic pagers, are no longer used, and some, such as smart glasses, or smart phones, with speech to text or text to speech, are not mentioned at all. For this reason, a more functional specification should be used.
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13.1.4.1 Emergency communication formats
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13.1.4.1
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1769035391364_604
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s13.2.1
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13.2.1 Alerting or signaling devices There are a variety of signaling devices available that provide either visible, audible or tactile cues to signal an alarm. Information on alerting devices and emergency alerting systems in Canada is provided in Annex C (https://accessible.canada.ca/creating-accessibility-standards/can-asc- 22-emergency-egress-exit/20-annex-c-emergency-alerting-and-communication-technologies-persons-disabilities). Lower frequency audible alarms should be provided for people who are hard of hearing. Note: They are particularly effective when the building occupant is asleep. Also available for people sleeping are assistive technologies that provide alerts by a flashing light and/or a pillow vibrating device placed under the pillow when triggered by a fire or smoke alarm.
What should we change it to?
Add a sentence before Lower frequency audible alarms should be provided for people who are hard of hearing Add the following This standard works in certain situations, but other technologies and devices shall be used in particular, those Communication barrier free systems and devices that are suitable for persons with disabilities.
Why should we change it?
The standard specified in NXC is really made for emergency alerts over an entire area, not in a particular building. In addition, it is somewhat limited, and so a functional description must be added. For this reason, other devices and techniques must be used that work for persons with disabilities in a particular facility, or a part of a particular facility.
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13.2.1 Alerting or signaling devices
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13.2.1
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1769035531660_752
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s13.2.2
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13.2.2 Visible device location Visible signal devices (strobes) shall be connected to a power source and emit a strobe light. The signal shall be provided in both public and private areas of a building. Visible signal devices shall be; a. located in conformance with the installation requirements for visible signal devices in CAN/ULC-S524.
What should we change it to?
Add a phrase at the end Every visible signal Location shall also have technologies that enable any person with a disability to receive the same message as if they were able to receive the information from the visible signal device in a barrier freeway compatible with the technology used by persons with disabilities.
Why should we change it?
Visible signal devices work for the general population, but there are many persons with disabilities for whom this is not appropriate. For this reason, technologies must be added to these devices to ensure that every occupant, resident, or visitor can receive the message sent by the visible signal device.
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13.2.2 Visible device location
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13.2.2
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1769035716362_860
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s13.2.3
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13.2.3 Smart phonesCommunication tools such as smart phones or mobile phones are increasingly being used by everyone. They are an excellent form of communication as they can receive audio and tactile alerts to notify of an incoming message and can be used in text and voice (audible) formats. Alert signals shall be transmitted via the National Public Alert System by all telecommunications providers. See Annex C (https://accessible.canada.ca/creating-accessibility-standards/can-asc-22-emergency-egress-exit/20-annex-c-emergency-alerting-and- communication-technologies-persons-disabilities) for information on national and provincial alert systems.
What should we change it to?
Add a sentence at the end indicating the difference between the standard listed in annex C, which is a general, widespread notification system, and the notifications necessary in and particular facility during an emergency. 13.2.3 Smart phonesCommunication tools such as smart phones or mobile phones are increasingly being used by everyone. They are an excellent form of communication as they can receive audio and tactile alerts to notify of an incoming message and can be used in text and voice (audible) formats. Alert signals shall be transmitted via the National Public Alert System by all telecommunications providers. See Annex C (https://accessible.canada.ca/creating-accessibility-standards/can-asc-22-emergency-egress-exit/20-annex-c-emergency-alerting-and- communication-technologies-persons-disabilities) for information on national and provincial alert systems. New text starts here the notification system described in NXC is used for widespread announcements of emergency situations. every facility must also have an notification system suitable for use by persons with disabilities at the beginning, during, and at the end of any emergency. smart phones and devices are suitable for this notification system, but there might be certain persons with disabilities who require other devices or systems to be aware of emergency egress and exit instructions during an emergency
Why should we change it?
The system described in annex is designed for use to alert a general population of an emergency in a particular area. It may not be suitable for all persons with disabilities, or might be too widespread to be of use during the emergency instructions necessary to perform a safe egress from a facility. For this reason, the standard must be amended to ensure that all situations are covered, not just those by the technology in annex C.
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13.2.3 Smart phones
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13.2.3
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1769035923923_942
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s13.3
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13.3 Emergency telephones Where provided, an emergency telephone shall: a. b. c. d. e. display the symbol for an Emergency Phone; provide its operable parts not more than 1200 mm from the floor; have the illumination level measured at the operating devices at least 200 lux; be hearing aid compatible; and have a volume control with amplification of (30-50 dB).
What should we change it to?
Add a few conditions at the end starting with letter F to enable all persons with disabilities, particular, blind, or deaf, to have a safe emergency egress. 13.3 Emergency telephones 13.3 Emergency telephones Where provided, an emergency telephone shall: a. b. c. d. e. display the symbol for an Emergency Phone; provide its operable parts not more than 1200 mm from the floor; have the illumination level measured at the operating devices at least 200 lux; be hearing aid compatible; and have a volume control with amplification of (30-50 dB). New text starts here F connected to an emergency backup generator or emergency backup battery system G. have signage indicating the exact location of the emergency telephone so that emergency personnel can easily identify the position of any caller H. Ensure that for any person with a disability for whom the emergency telephone is not suitable, that every other system used in a barrier free way by persons with disability of communication works in the same location as the emergency telephone..
Why should we change it?
The emergency telephone does not work for all persons, and in all those locations, all other communication systems must work also.
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13.3 Emergency telephones
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13.3
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1769035989961_665
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s13.4
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13.4 Public announcements Whenever a public announcement is provided in an audio format, it shall be provided at designated areas on all floors of a building in text display and transmitted electronically to building occupants. All public announcements relating to emergency egress shall be provided in a variety of formats, including: a. audible announcements; b. broadcasting to hearing technologies and implantable devices; c. visual announcements; and d. electronic announcements. Note: Variable message boards should also be used. When provided, variable message boards shall: a. b. not use pre-recorded messages for emergency information; utilize a well-contrasted characters (avoiding red and green or blue on a black background); c. be mounted at a maximum height of 1500 mm; and d. be centrally located.
What should we change it to?
Add a line starting with letter E to ensure that whatever communication system is used, that there be a communication system that works for every person with a disability. 13.4 Public announcements Whenever a public announcement is provided in an audio format, it shall be provided at designated areas on all floors of a building in text display and transmitted electronically to building occupants. All public announcements relating to emergency egress shall be provided in a variety of formats, including: a. audible announcements; b. broadcasting to hearing technologies and implantable devices; c. visual announcements; and d. electronic announcements. New text starts here E. Every public announcement or message Board notification will also be communicated using Barrier free communication systems and devices that are compatible with those used by persons with disabilities. New text ends here Note: Variable message boards should also be used. When provided, variable message boards shall: a. b. not use pre-recorded messages for emergency information; utilize a well-contrasted characters (avoiding red and green or blue on a black background); c. be mounted at a maximum height of 1500 mm; and d. be centrally located.
Why should we change it?
This clause lists various technologies for public announcements, however, there are certain persons with disabilities, deaf, or blind, as examples for whom these technologies are not suitable. For this reason, there must be an additional phrase to ensure that no person with a disability is left during an emergency without a communication system that works for them.
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13.4 Public announcements
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13.4
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1769036124915_152
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s13.5
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13.5 Audio systems (assistive listening systems) A permanent assistive audio system shall be provided where there is an exchange of emergency information, including in the following floor areas: a. in elevators; b. as part of emergency warning intercom systems; c. as part of all public announcement systems; and d. at security checkpoints.
What should we change it to?
Add a line starting with letter E 13.5 Audio systems (assistive listening systems) A permanent assistive audio system shall be provided where there is an exchange of emergency information, including in the following floor areas: a. in elevators; b. as part of emergency warning intercom systems; c. as part of all public announcement systems; and d. at security checkpoints. New text starts here E any assistive system that meets the conditions of this clause shall also be integrated with all communications systems that are necessary for persons with disabilities to receive the appropriate instructions during an emergency egress in a barrier free way. situation.
Why should we change it?
Because this clause is focused on audio systems, it is unsuitable for persons with disabilities, in particular, those who are deaf or heart of hearing, and a person with low or no vision might also need more instruction than can be had through an audio system. For this reason, whatever information comes through this audio system, must also be able to be transmitted to every person, including those with disabilities.
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13.5 Audio systems (assistive listening systems)
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13.5
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1769036528464_42
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s13
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14. Illumination and emergency power Illumination of accessible egress paths of travel and Areas of Refuge shall be: a. no less than 200 lux at floor level; b. be placed to avoid glare; and c. supplemented by emergency power. Separate emergency lighting and ventilation systems shall be supported by a backup generator. Emergency electrical power will ensure adequate emergency lighting for the use of elevators and key operating components or other systems during a power outage. A photoluminescence lighting system along the floor should be provided to indicate the accessible egress path of travel. Illumination in elevators shall be a minimum of 100 lux.
What should we change it to?
Add the words, muster, waiting, or shelter, after the word, refuge. 14. Illumination and emergency power Illumination of accessible egress paths of travel and Areas of Refuge Muster, waiting, or shelter shall be: a. no less than 200 lux at floor level; b. be placed to avoid glare; and c. supplemented by emergency power. Separate emergency lighting and ventilation systems shall be supported by a backup generator. Emergency electrical power will ensure adequate emergency lighting for the use of elevators and key operating components or other systems during a power outage. A photoluminescence lighting system along the floor should be provided to indicate the accessible egress path of travel. Illumination in elevators shall be a minimum of 100 lux.
Why should we change it?
Every area where persons might be gathered, waiting for help during an emergency egress must be appropriately lit. These include not only refuge, but also waiting, muster, or shelter. The word photoluminescence is somewhat technical, and should either be placed in the definitions, or perhaps the more familiar, glow in the dark phrase used.
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1769036777040_127
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s15.1
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15.1 General The use of elevators for evacuation is one key strategy for evacuation of people who are unable to use stairs.
What should we change it to?
Enlarge the choice of using this type of elevator during an emergency By adding to the phrase after, using the stairs.. 15.1 General The use of elevators for evacuation is one key strategy for evacuation of people who are unable to use stairs. New text starts here and for evacuation of people who decide that this type of elevator is a safer or more rapid method of egress then stairs during an evacuation
Why should we change it?
The use of this type of elevator should not be limited to those that are unable to use stairs. If this type of elevator is the safest and most rapid evacuation route, then anyone should be allowed to use it. In particular, persons with some types of disabilities struggle with stairs, even in the best of times, especially those who are blind, deaf, blind, or have impaired vision, and so this type of elevator must be able to be used by them.
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15.1 General
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15.1
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1769040013855_820
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s15.3
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
15.3 Occupant evacuation elevators An Occupant Evacuation Elevator (OEE) is designed to be used for evacuation purposes by people unable to use the stairs.
What should we change it to?
Enlarge the choice of using this type of elevator during an emergency By adding to the phrase after,. Use the stairs.. 15.3 Occupant evacuation elevators An Occupant Evacuation Elevator (OEE) is designed to be used for evacuation purposes by people unable to use the stairs. New text starts here and for evacuation of people who decide that this type of elevator is a safer or more rapid method of egress then stairs during an evacuation.
Why should we change it?
The use of this type of elevator should not be limited to those that are unable to use stairs. If this type of elevator is the safest and most rapid evacuation route, then anyone should be allowed to use it. In particular, persons with some types of disabilities struggle with stairs, even in the best of times, especially those who are blind, deaf, blind, or have impaired vision, and so this type of elevator must be able to be used by them.
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15.3 Occupant evacuation elevators
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15.3
Item id
1769040131527_848
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s15.3.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
15.3.1 InformationAn Occupant Evacuation Elevator ( OEE) is designed to be used for evacuation purposes by people unable to use the stairs.
What should we change it to?
Enlarge the use of this type of elevator by adding to the phrase, people unable to use the stairs. 15.3.1 InformationAn Occupant Evacuation Elevator (OEE) is designed to be used for evacuation purposes by people unable to use the stairs. New text starts here and can be used by people who decide that this type of elevator is a safer or more rapid method of egress then stairs
Why should we change it?
The use of this type of elevator should not be limited to those that are unable to use stairs. If this type of elevator is the safest and most rapid evacuation route, then anyone should be allowed to use it. In particular, persons with some types of disabilities struggle with stairs, even in the best of times, especially those who are blind, deaf, blind, or have impaired vision, and so this type of elevator must be able to be used by them.
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15.3.1 Information
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15.3.1
Item id
1769040253464_116
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s15.3.1
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General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
15.3.1 InformationAn Occupant Evacuation Elevator (OEE) is designed to be used for evacuation purposes by people unable to use the stairs. A two-way text/communication system shall be provided inside and outside the OEE elevators. A two-way text communication system inside and outside elevators are available that will provide a visual screen to connect with security. Alternately, Wi-Fi availability can facilitate communication
What should we change it to?
Add a phrase after Alternately, Wi-Fi availability can facilitate communication. 15.3.1 InformationAn Occupant Evacuation Elevator (OEE) is designed to be used for evacuation purposes by people unable to use the stairs. A two-way text/communication system shall be provided inside and outside the OEE elevators. A two-way text communication system inside and outside elevators are available that will provide a visual screen to connect with security. Alternately, Wi-Fi availability can facilitate communication. New text starts here Any two way system or visual screen shall also have technologies, integrated, or nearby in a failsafe manner, such that persons with disabilities using Barrier free accessible and usable, technologies will receive all notifications and announcements, before, during, and after an emergency or evacuation.
Why should we change it?
Any system that delivers notifications to the occupants, residence or visitors in a building must deliver messages to everyone who is there, including persons with disabilities.
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15.3.1 Information
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15.3.1
Item id
1769040374910_561
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s15.3.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
15.3.1 InformationAn Occupant Evacuation Elevator (OEE) is designed to be used for evacuation purposes by people unable to use the stairs. A two-way text/communication system shall be provided inside and outside the OEE elevators. A two-way text communication system inside and outside elevators are available that will provide a visual screen to connect with security. Alternately, Wi-Fi availability can facilitate communication. Information on its use shall: a. be incorporated into the fire safety plan; b. be incorporated into the PEEPs, when appropriate; and c. be included in the posted fire safety evacuation plan. Occupants of a building shall be instructed in how to use and when to operate an OEE. There shall be signs posted on all floors adjacent to each elevator call station for OEEs.
What should we change it to?
Add a line at the end enhancing the ability to locate this type of elevator during an emergency. Just a sign is not sufficient. 15.3.1 InformationAn Occupant Evacuation Elevator (OEE) is designed to be used for evacuation purposes by people unable to use the stairs. A two-way text/communication system shall be provided inside and outside the OEE elevators. A two-way text communication system inside and outside elevators are available that will provide a visual screen to connect with security. Alternately, Wi-Fi availability can facilitate communication. Information on its use shall: a. be incorporated into the fire safety plan; b. be incorporated into the PEEPs, when appropriate; and c. be included in the posted fire safety evacuation plan. Occupants of a building shall be instructed in how to use and when to operate an OEE. There shall be signs posted on all floors adjacent to each elevator call station for OEEs. New text starts here In addition to signs posted on every floor for this type of elevator, there shall be notification and announcement Barrier free, accessible, and usable, systems suitable for persons with disabilities, such as voice alerts, identification, flashing light, and tactile markings on the floor to announce this type of elevator.
Why should we change it?
As this type of elevator might be the safest and most rapid route of evacuation, it is essential that anybody be able to find them during the stress, noise, and perhaps reduced visibility of an emergency. For this reason, notification and announcement enhancements such as those listed must be installed.
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15.3.1 Information
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15.3.1
Item id
1769040446639_422
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s15.4.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
15.4.1 Space All elevators shall provide a clear floor area of 2,010 mm minimum in length and 610 mm minimum in width to accommodate a stretcher in the prone position and additional space for two persons.
What should we change it to?
Replace, additional space for two persons, with a clause indicating how this number is to be calculated. 15.4.1 Space All elevators shall provide a clear floor area of 2,010 mm minimum in length and 610 mm minimum in width to accommodate a stretcher in the prone position New text starts here and additional space for the number of persons that is appropriate for the number of occupants, residence, and visitors, as well as the number of elevators and floors.
Why should we change it?
From a risk management perspective, the elevator of this type might be the safest and most rapid way to evacuate the building, and so many people might decide to use it. This number must be calculated proportionate to the number of persons in the building , and other factors, so that the maximum number of people can be evacuated in a safe manner.
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15.4.1 Space
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15.4.1
Item id
1769040503320_398
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s15.4.3
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
15.4.3 Identification An elevator that is designed to accommodate a stretcher or OEE shall be clearly identified on every level the elevator serves.
What should we change it to?
Add a clause at the end, indicating that the elevator of this type must be identified in a way that works for persons with disabilities. 15.4.3 Identification An elevator that is designed to accommodate a stretcher or OEE shall be clearly identified on every level the elevator serves. New text starts here In addition to signs posted on every floor for this type of elevator, there shall be notification and announcement Barrier free, accessible, and usable systems suitable for persons with disabilities, such as voice alerts, identification, flashing light, and tactile markings on the floor.
Why should we change it?
As this type of elevator might be the safest and most rapid route of evacuation, it is essential that anybody be able to find them during the stress, noise, and perhaps Limited visibility of an emergency. For this reason, notification and announcement enhancements such as those listed must be installed.
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15.4.3 Identification
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15.4.3
Item id
1769040563854_329
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s15.5
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
15.5 Elevator controls Elevator car controls shall: a. b. c. d. be mounted on the front and side walls of the elevator cab; be mounted at a maximum height of 1200 mm; be equipped with braille and raised characters on buttons located to the left of the operation button; and have a well-contrasted operation button.
What should we change it to?
Change clause E to a height that fits the general population. 15.5 Elevator controls Elevator car controls shall: a. b. c. d. be mounted on the front and side walls of the elevator cab; be mounted at a maximum height that matches the median height of occupants and residence;
Why should we change it?
From a standard perspective, it is understandable to choose a height of control surfaces that match the person whose reach is limited to a certain amount that might need these controls. From a risk management perspective, the choice of height must match the most persons that are able to use it. For this reason, the height of the control surface, must meet the needs of the person's in the facility on an average basis, not the person with the least Reach. In addition, for persons with disabilities, perhaps vision, impairment, neurodivergent, or less able to kneel, stretch, or bend to be able to enact these controls, the height must be appropriate for them.
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15.5 Elevator controls
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15.5
Item id
1769040624893_805
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s15.5
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
15.5 Elevator controls Elevator car controls shall: a. b. c. d. be mounted on the front and side walls of the elevator cab; be mounted at a maximum height of 1200 mm; be equipped with braille and raised characters on buttons located to the left of the operation button; and have a well-contrasted operation button.
What should we change it to?
Add a line F, , indicating function appropriate for emergency use. 15.5 Elevator controls Elevator car controls shall: a. b. c. d. be mounted on the front and side walls of the elevator cab; be mounted at a maximum height of 1200 mm; be equipped with braille and raised characters on buttons located to the left of the operation button; and have a well-contrasted operation button. F. Any elevator of this type must have a Barrier free, accessible, and usable system that enables persons with disabilities to direct it to the floor that has the safest evacuation route.
Why should we change it?
During the stress of an emergency, it may be difficult for a person with a disability to know, or select the correct floor. For this reason, there must be an embedded system that can direct the occupant, resident, or visitor to the safest floor. for a safe evacuation route. For this reason, such a system must be embedded into the elevator, in fail safe a manner.
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15.5 Elevator controls
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15.5
Item id
1769042154938_103
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s16.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
16.1 Application All signage and way finding relating to emergency egress shall be accessible and shall include text, visual, tactile and Braille characters. There are different types of signage that relate to emergency egress for various purposes: a. regulatory signs, which include information, including safety and emergency signs; b. mandatory signs which denote an order requiring an action; and c. warning signs such as caution and danger signs denote a potential hazard and a definite hazard. Note: Red, blue or green LEDs shall be avoided on a black background as they are unreadable for most people with vision loss
What should we change it to?
The note at the end about red, green and blue lights should be harmonize with signage standards for persons with low or no vision. 16.1 Application All signage and way finding relating to emergency egress shall be accessible and shall include text, visual, tactile and Braille characters. There are different types of signage that relate to emergency egress for various purposes: a. regulatory signs, which include information, including safety and emergency signs; b. mandatory signs which denote an order requiring an action; and c. warning signs such as caution and danger signs denote a potential hazard and a definite hazard. Note. All signs shall Conform and harmonize with signage standards for accessibility, usability and legibility including font style, size, color, and contrast and standards for alternate formats.
Why should we change it?
There is a standard that specifies font, size, font style, color, and contrast to ensure usability and legibility. This standard should be harmonized with the emergency egress standard.
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16.1 Application
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16.1
Item id
1769042265313_87
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s16.2
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
16.2 Directional signage The following signs shall be posted indicating the accessible egress route: a. accessible egress path of travel to an exit, an area of refuge and a horizontal separation, if it is used as an area of refuge; and b. accessible egress path of travel to an occupant evacuation elevator. Emergency egress signage shall be identified by directional signage indicating the accessible egress path of travel to the final exit.
What should we change it to?
Clarify the different lettered phrases, and add, areas of shelter, muster, and waiting. 16.2 Directional signage The following signs shall be posted indicating the accessible egress route to : a. an exit, B. an area of refuge, waiting, shelter, or muster C. a horizontal separation, if it is used as an area of refuge , shelter, waiting, or mustard ; b. an occupant evacuation elevator. Emergency egress signage shall be identified by directional signage indicating the accessible egress path of travel to the final exit.
Why should we change it?
The sections with letters are two tightly condensed, and other areas besides refuge, such as waiting, shelter, and muster need to be identified.
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16.2 Directional signage
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16.2
Item id
1769042321761_797
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s16.2
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
16.2 Directional signage Emergency egress directional signage shall be: a. posted at all decision points throughout the building; b. mounted with its centre between 1200 mm and 1500 mm from the finished floor; c. provided with legible, clear font not less than 16 pt; and d. available in alternative accessible formats, upon request.
What should we change it to?
Change and merge c. provided with legible, clear font not less than 16 pt; and d. available in alternative accessible formats, upon request. Emergency egress directional signage shall be: a. posted at all decision points throughout the building; b. mounted with its centre between 1200 mm and 1500 mm from the finished floor; C. All signs shall Conform and harmonize two standards for usability and legibility for font style, size, color, and contrast as well as standards for alternate formats.
Why should we change it?
All signage should be installed in formats that are suitable for persons with disabilities. There is a standard that describes font style, size, color, and contrast, and this must be harmonized with the emergency egress standard.
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16.2 Directional signage
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16.2
Item id
1769043027916_157
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s16.2
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
16.2 Directional sign16.2 Directional signage Emergency egress directional signage shall be: a. posted at all decision points throughout the building; b. mounted with its centre between 1200 mm and 1500 mm from the finished floor; c. provided with legible, clear font not less than 16 pt; and d. available in alternative accessible formats, upon request. age
What should we change it to?
Add some lettered clauses to ensure these signs are are usable and legible at all times, including power outages Starting with E. in this standard. 16.2 Directional signage Emergency egress directional signage shall be: a. posted at all decision points throughout the building; b. mounted with its centre between 1200 mm and 1500 mm from the finished floor; c. provided with legible, clear font not less than 16 pt; and d. available in alternative accessible formats, upon request. E. be self illuminated, externally illuminated, or glow in the dark. Any power for illumination shall be from emergency backup generators. F. every directional sign shall also have identification Marker on it that shows the location of the sign, so that emergency personnel can easily locate a person who calls in needing assistance and references this identification marker. The identification marker shall also be in tactile and braille. G. directional signs shall be surrounded by tactile floor surface, large enough for a person with low or no vision to locate it, and small enough not to interfere with evacuation procedures. H. directional markers shall emit a sound loud enough for a person with a disability to locate it, but not loud enough to interfere with evacuation procedures.
Why should we change it?
Directional markers are the lifeline to safety, and so they should be easily found, by any person, and have enough information so that any person will know which direction to go in, and enable emergency personnel to locate a person needing assistance.
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16.2 Directional signage
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16.2
Item id
1769043141218_567
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s16.3
What kind of suggestion are you making?
Editorial such as spelling, grammar, formatting and accessibility
What should we change?
The entire clause
What should we change it to?
Shorten the list.
Why should we change it?
It feels like a map with so many items would be more confusing than informative.
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16.3 Emergency evacuation map
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16.3
Item id
1769043202675_303
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s16.3
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
be located in central locations of the building; incorporate a font size of no less than 14 point; o. be color contrasted; p. be available in alternate formats; q. when possible, avoid the use of red and green; and r. use official pictograms.
What should we change it to?
Conform and harmonize with signage standards for accessibility, usability and legibility including font style, size, color, and contrast and standards for alternate formats. For those persons with disabilities for whom a map is not suitable, list and have a contact person to explain and demonstrate, and practice, the necessary information that will lead to a successful emergency egress. . Use only approved ISO pictograms. Have a legend that explains in an accessible format what each pictogram is.
Why should we change it?
There are three parts to this suggestion. 1. Font style, size, color, and contrast must conformed and harmonize with the approved standard. 2. For those for whom maps are not accessible, an alternate person to explain must be available. 3. Pictograms can be mysterious, so only approved ones should be used, and even though they are approved, must be explained in a legend.
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16.3 Emergency evacuation map
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16.3
Item id
1769043278403_545
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s16.4
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
16.4 Tactile maps Tactile maps of the posted emergency evacuation map should be provided at the building entrance. Where provided, tactile maps shall: a. be angled between 20° minimum and 30° maximum from the horizontal;b. c. d. have the bottom edge 900 mm minimum above the finished floor surface; E. have the key located at the bottom of the map and left justified; and F. have a recessed braille locator provided on the left-hand side to assist in locating the legend.
What should we change it to?
Add a clause G , ensuring that user feedback is incorporated into each revision, and continue this process until users are satisfied. G in the spirit of continuous improvement, as soon as possible, after the opening of the facility, survey the users of this tactile map on a regular basis and revise the map, consistent with suggestions, until users and the facility accessibility panel are satisfied..
Why should we change it?
A tactile map design must conform to a delicate balance between just the right amount of information, properly displayed, and too much information which could overload the user. Only the user can decide on this, and so it is necessary to Survey the user experience, and continuously changed the map until users are satisfied.
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16.4 Tactile maps
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16.4
Item id
1769043332826_533
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s16.5.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
16.5.1 Enclosed stairway signage An enclosed stairway shall have a sign identifying the storey in raised characters and braille with a high luminance contrast to its background at each landing that provides access to a floor area.
What should we change it to?
Add additional items to facilitate emergency egress. 16.5.1 Enclosed stairway signage A. An enclosed stairway shall have a sign identifying the storey in raised characters and braille with a high luminance contrast to its background at each landing that provides access to a floor area. New text starts here The sign shall Conform and harmonize with signage standards for accessibility, usability and legibility including font style, size, colour, and contrast and standards for alternate formats. C. On those floors where there is exit, refuge, shelter, or waiting areas, this shall be marked on the door in formats that conform with the standard for accessibility. D. each sign shall have an identification marker in an accessible format that locates where the door is in a way that emergency personnel with this information could easily locate a person.
Why should we change it?
This suggestion covers the following reasons. 1. All signage must conform to an harmonize with the standards for accessibility, usability, and legibility. 2. In order to ensure a safe evacuation, the door must be marked with information about that particular floor as to whether it has a exit, refuge , muster or shelter area on it. 3. In large buildings, their are many doors, many floors, and many stairwells. If a person needs to be rescued from that particular door area, they must be able to locate and identify it in a unique way when communicating with emergency personnel.
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16.5.1 Enclosed stairway signage
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16.5.1
Item id
1769043381780_876
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s16.5.2
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
16.5.2 Exit door signage An accessible exit door discharging to the exterior of a building or another building shall: a. have a sign with raised characters and braille; b. if discharging directly to the exterior, lead to an accessible exterior path of travel and the exterior muster point; and c. if discharging to another building, lead to a path of travel that complies with this Standard.
What should we change it to?
Add a sentence after clause, A clarifying the standards to be met 16.5.2 Exit door signage An accessible exit door discharging to the exterior of a building or another building shall: a. have a sign with raised characters and braille; New text starts here the sign shall Conform and harmonize with signage standards for accessibility, usability and legibility including font style, size, colour, and contrast and standards for alternate formats.
Why should we change it?
All signage must conform and harmonize with relevant standards .
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16.5.2 Exit door signage
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16.5.2
Item id
1769045265476_780
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s13.2.1
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
speaks to the effectiveness of visible signal devices (and other devices) for waking sleeping people.
What should we change it to?
However, the challenge is that the fire alarm systems that this standard includes, unlike smoke alarms, are not located in sleeping units. Fire alarm systems are generally in apartment buildings (rental and condo) and are generally required in corridors, common areas, and other non-sleeping units. As an additional element in Ontario, for example, in the residential suites within these large buildings are generally smoke alarms that are specific to that suite and not connected to the building fire alarm system. This is one reason why Ontario’s smoke alarm requirement implemented in its 2015 provincial Building Code in section 3.2.4.22 included the requirement for residential standalone smoke alarms in each sleeping room (sub-section 3.a). Since subsection 13 also required visual signaling component, this is where the value in waking sleeping people occurs and why Ontario made the decision to include a comprehensive fire alarms systems and smoke alarm requirement so that safety and accessibility was increased for all residents of these new buildings.
Why should we change it?
NA
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13.2.1 Alerting or signaling devices
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13.2.1
Item id
1769045319036_391
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s13.1.4
What kind of suggestion are you making?
General comments on the overall standard or a section such as things that are missing
What should we change?
speaks to cases “where a fire alarm system is not provided, the visible SIGNAL system shall consist of strobe lights conforming to CAN/ULC-S526.”
What should we change it to?
We believe that this is an opportunity to include a requirement for smoke alarms with visible signal devices as a cost-effective method of including the accessibility technology in a manner that includes the additional benefit of an audible device. • Section 7.1(a) notes that the standard shall apply to “all new buildings.” o In this case, there is a gap in application on single-family homes, which do not require fire alarm systems, but rather smoke alarms. The benefits of visible signal technology are clear: • Enhanced visibility: Strobe lights are highly visible due to their intense and rapid flashing. They can cut through visual clutter, effectively capturing attention and conveying urgent messages. In emergency situations or high-noise environments, strobe lights provide a visual cue to help ensure people are alert and respond appropriately. They are also synchronized at 1hz for safety and accessibility and to address concerns that were discussed around epilepsy when Ontario put its provincial requirement in place ten years ago. o Added visibility: Kidde has also received reports from firefighters in British Columbia that visible signals have increased their response times in large
Why should we change it?
NA
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13.1.4 Where a fire alarm system is not provided
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13.1.4
Submission ID
64585
Submitted by
VWilliams
Submitted on
Wed, 01/21/2026 - 20:29
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